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1942 Fisher M4 A2 'Sherman'

1942 Fisher M4 A2 'Sherman' in Worker and War-Front, Documentary, 1942-1946 IMDB Ep. 06

Class: Others, Military armored vehicle — Model origin: US

1942 Fisher M4 A2 'Sherman'

Position 0:06:40 [*] Background vehicle

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Sunbar UK

2015-09-30 17:17

[Image: 1_66-36ww-f.jpg]

mike962 DE

2015-09-30 17:35

according to this Sherman's used in North Africa where A1

now the A1 had a cast iron hall instead of welded one

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease_Sherman_tanks#North_Africa


http://the.shadock.free.fr/sherman_minutia/sherman_types/m4a1/m4a1.html


does this look liked cast iron ?

-- Last edit: 2015-09-30 17:36:05

Sunbar UK

2015-09-30 19:23

The 17th/21st Lancers The Second World War: North Africa 1942-1943 the Battle of Fondouk, on the 8th and 9th April 1943.
A photograph on the website shows what I think is the earlier welded hull version of the Sherman, the same as shown above.

http://www.qrlnymuseum.co.uk/1721l.htm

mike962 DE

2015-09-30 20:20

Sunbar wrote The 17th/21st Lancers The Second World War: North Africa 1942-1943 the Battle of Fondouk, on the 8th and 9th April 1943.
A photograph on the website shows what I think is the earlier welded hull version of the Sherman, the same as shown above.

http://www.qrlnymuseum.co.uk/1721l.htm

then welded and hull and see the shape pf the rear this looks to be an original M4 version with 75 mm gun and turret
http://the.shadock.free.fr/sherman_minutia/sherman_types/m4/m4.html

so pick a producer
This variant was manufactured by Baldwin LW, Pressed Steel Car, ALCO and Pullman Standard (6748 units produced).

-- Last edit: 2015-09-30 20:22:37

andrepa DE

2015-09-30 22:19

M4A2 Sherman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/17th/21st_Lancers

PeteP UK

2015-10-01 00:36

I agree on M4A2, the rear armour shape is different on the M4 and M4A1, I will check the manufacturers presently

mike962 DE

2015-10-01 10:31

A2 didn't have a pipe in the middle of rear or maybe that was added in the field ?
http://the.shadock.free.fr/sherman_minutia/sherman_types/m4a2/M4A2_75_5.JPG


http://the.shadock.free.fr/sherman_minutia/sherman_types/m4a2/m4a2.html

PeteP UK

2015-10-01 23:56

mike962 wrote A2 didn't have a pipe in the middle of rear or maybe that was added in the field ?
http://the.shadock.free.fr/sherman_minutia/sherman_types/m4a2/M4A2_75_5.JPG


http://the.shadock.free.fr/sherman_minutia/sherman_types/m4a2/m4a2.html

That pipe is just for stowing the track tensioning tool and does feature on some M4A2s.

http://afvdb.50megs.com/usa/pics/m4sherman.html#M4A2REAR

The shape of the rear armour is a more reliable guide as it is related to the engine fitted, on the M4 and M4A1 the armour is notched up on the A2 and A3 it is lower than the side armour.

mike962 DE

2015-10-02 00:18

well then it's an A2 with 75 mm gun so whcih producer to pick....

This variant was manufactured by Fisher Body, Baldwin LW, Federal Machine and Welder, ALCO and Pullman Standard (approx. 7053 units produced).

I guess Fisher is best chocice

-- Last edit: 2015-10-02 00:19:37

PeteP UK

2015-10-02 14:12

Impossible to tell for sure without seeing a lot more details or the US registration but Fisher is certainly preferable to unknown. :)

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