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1968 Mercedes-Benz [W114]

1968 Mercedes-Benz [W114] in Tatort - Zwei Flugkarten nach Rio, Movie made for TV, 1976 IMDB

Class: Cars, Sedan — Model origin: DE

1968 Mercedes-Benz [W114]

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electra225 IT

2015-02-16 17:57

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Early 114 or 115.

KadettKiemenCoupé DE

2015-02-17 19:20

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Right, the famous Mercedes-Benz /8.

eLMeR FM

2015-02-20 22:52

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The small chrome bar under the MB emblem on the trunk indicates indeed a 1968-72 model.
Is there a clue to identity here a 4-cylinder W115 or a 6-cylinder W114? Should we create a /8 category for all unidentifiable W114 / W115 cars, as MB is said to have used that designation on the ID plates?

ingo DE

2015-02-21 14:01

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no, from the back W114 and W115 are not distinguishable except by the badge.

eLMeR FM

2015-02-22 12:42

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And there is no name for a common identification of both models, except the unofficial /8 / Strich-Acht / Slash Eight?

-- Last edit: 2015-02-22 12:43:15

ingo DE

2015-02-22 12:54

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yes, just "/8" or "Strichacht" is enough. Everyone knows that.

-- Last edit: 2015-02-22 12:54:17

eLMeR FM

2015-02-22 23:01

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ingo wrote [...] Everyone knows that.

Everyone but me, until a few days ago. And I'm sure there is still a lot of uninformed person about it :D
So, no official name?

-- Last edit: 2015-02-22 23:02:02

ingo DE

2015-02-23 00:18

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no, it's just slang, not official.

antp BE

2015-02-23 17:28

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In such case we list them by the most common name/code (W114 I guess) or we pick one randomly.

eLMeR FM

2015-02-23 21:18

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antp wrote In such case we list them by the most common name/code (W114 I guess) [...]

Wikipedia also use 114 as default (1) and redirects when 115 is used, and 114 is... digitally the first, so it seems indeed to be a good idea :)
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1: We already use IMDb IDs for the movies numbers, so it could be good too to follow (most of) the conventions of WP, as it seems to be the site used by most people to search more informations.

-- Last edit: 2015-02-23 21:19:28

zodiac SE

2015-03-13 21:36

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A few comments:

eLMeR wrote: Wikipedia also use 114 as default (1) and redirects when 115 is used, and 114 is... digitally the first, so it seems indeed to be a good idea.

Wikipedia is not an official Mercedes site, and cannot be taken for facts.
As I understand Wikipedia it's something that relays completely on the knowledge of its members, and if there're enough members that care on a particular subject.
The problem with Wikipedia is that everybody can create an account and write "facts" that might be true, but also can be taken out of the blue moon. I find books much more trustworthy as those had to be looked into, if not scrutinized, before being pulished, partly because it was, and still is, expensive to publish a book, and partly as the publisher usually want to remain trustworthy.

Wikipedia has strangely got such a reputation that it became (what I've heard) accredited as a trustworthy sourse by universities and high schools in Sweden. But to prove that you cannot trust it completely someone published something totally wrong, and observed it spreading through the Internet. And was frightened how rapidly it spread.
When reading Wikipedia, and the whole Internet for that matter, one has to know that it's far too easy to write stuff that later might be taken for a fact.

I never refer to Wikipedia if I'm not having another trustworthy sourse to compare it with, but I sometimes link to it as it occasionally has nice pictures (showing a feature I want to hilight).
I almost trust Wikipedia when concerning IT stuff, but not at all as much when concerning older technical matters, like e.g. cars.


But having that said, the W 114 all had a six cylinder version while the W 115 had a four cylinder engine (apart from 240 D 3.0 which had a five cylinder).
The W 114 was made in (also including the coupés) just short of half a million, while the W 115 were made in some one million and a half.
As the W 115 was that much more common that would rather suggest being used as a default.

The /8 abbreviation was widely used by Mercedes themselves, e.g. in work shop manuals and smaller booklets, as was the less well known /9 used for the 280 SE 3.5 and the 300 SEL 3.5.

-- Last edit: 2015-03-13 21:40:03

eLMeR FM

2015-03-13 22:18

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Same "default model" discussed here. A common solution is clearly needed ;)

About Wikipedia: I totally agree with you, zodiac. Except that I'm kind of "part of the IT world", so I'd say that WP is as trustworthy in that domain as it is for the rest.
This said, I was talking about a "default rule" (and not about any identification), and WP one seems to me as good as any other. As long as there is one. The above link show another reason to give the W115 as default, similar to yours (based first on the number of produced cars). Whatever the rule is, I just think we should have one...

By the way, as you say:
[Wikipedia is] something that relays completely on the knowledge of its members. [...] The problem with Wikipedia is that everybody can create an account and write "facts" that might be true, but also can be taken out of the blue moon.
Some of our contributors should remember that about the IMCDb, and avoid this way too much "auto-source" that repeat endlessly a former wrong- or non-sourced identification (here an example amongst some I saw...).

-- Last edit: 2015-03-13 22:20:20

zodiac SE

2015-03-17 11:08

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I'm using this http://wiki.mercedes-benz-classic.com/index.php/Hauptseite page because it coinside with other information I've got.

I've earlier tried to argue that vehicles of similar design that cannot be separated could be identified by both versions in order to avoid confusion. Instead of only the lowest (or most common) number.
Two examples would be "Mercedes-Benz W 114/ W 115" and "Volvo F 10/ F 12".
Other examples could be "Volvo 140-series" when the number of doors isn't visible.

According to my opinion this is much better than marked "unknown".

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