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1966 Mercedes-Benz 300 SE [W108]

1966 Mercedes-Benz 300 SE [W108] in La casa della paura, Movie, 1974 IMDB

Class: Cars, Sedan — Model origin: DE — Made for: I

1966 Mercedes-Benz 300 SE [W108]

Position 01:07:53 [*][*][*] Vehicle used by a character or in a car chase

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Alessandro58 CH

2014-01-17 18:14

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AleX_DJ AT

2014-01-17 18:19

W108

electra225 IT

2014-01-17 19:19

I can read "300 SE" on the second thumb. In this caes a W109 but something looks odd to me. I had the impression to see a cheaper W108. I am not so good at recognizing W108s and W109s anyway. Where is Ingo ?

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Ingo DE

2014-01-17 20:21

300 SE [W108] is o.k.: Link to "de.wikipedia.org"
There was no 300 SE in the W109-range: Link to "de.wikipedia.org"

zodiac SE

2014-01-17 20:22

This is a very interesting, and comparatively uncommon car.
It's a 1966-67 Mercedes 300 SEB [W108 IV] http://wiki.mercedes-benz-classic.com/index.php/Kategorie:W108/W109 (only 2.737 built).

The low numbers was because of the huge price gap between the 250 SE and the 300 SE, caused by the high cost of an engine made entire of aluminium. The 250 had the block made of cast iron.
Otherwise no major differences between the models, until the W109 came with air suspension and slightly more upmarket interior.

The 300 SE wasn't considered a good buy, at the time, by the German motor magazine Auto, Motor und Sport which also critisized the steep fuel consumption (compare with the 250 SE) without any major improvement in acceleration and speed.
The decision not to spend the extra money was probably regretted soon afterwards by the Mercedes buyers which found out the 250 SE engine wasn't fully developed causing heavy oil consumption, and as the owners didn't keep up with filling up more oil, engines went dry and burst. A huge problem in the mid 60's, which caused Mercedes to change the 250 engine considerably until 1967, but as the damage was already caused, also caused the 250 engine to get a bad reputation. That is not the case for later models, and with replaced engines, which I found out after a lot of reading in German magazines. It developed my German as well, probably a good thing...

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Bob Dieck BR

2014-01-17 20:26

As far as I know the window frame of 300 SE were wide chrommed, not as this car shows, as this picture Link to "www.google.com.br"

zodiac SE

2014-01-17 20:40

@bob dieck:
According to the 'Chassis and Body Spare Parts List', Edition D, I have, that is Plate 35, Group 67, pages 417-427, there's no difference on the W108 range concerning the window frame.

Edit:
The W109 range, on the other hand, is considerably different compare with the W108. E.g. Chrome around the side windows.

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Bob Dieck BR

2014-01-18 00:37

I was very fast and precisionless. What I meant is that all 300 SEL (W 109) and 300 SE (W 108 IV) and have those large and chromed window frames. In the other hand, w 108's 250S/SE (W 108 II / III) have small window narrow strips. So that I am convinced this car is a 1966, 1967 250 S/ SE, because those hubcaps and wheel rings were not fitted on 1968+ 280 S/SE and it has the narrow strips.

zodiac SE

2014-01-18 08:37

In the 'Chassis and Body Spare Parts List', there are several columns listing all different versions available at the time. Partly 'All models' which is marked if no differences, and partly 'Quantity per Model' which is marked if differences occur on various models. The models are W108.012 (250 S), W108.014 (250 SE), W108.015 (300 SEB), W108.016 (280 S), W108.018 (280 SE), W108.019 (280 SEL), W108.057 (280 SE 3.5) and W108.058 (280 SEL 3.5). There're two more models as well in the W108 range, namely W108.067 (280 SE 4.5) and W108.068 (280 SEL 4.5) but they hadn't been introduced at the time when my book was printed (March 1971).
The last columns listed in the book are for special 'Versions', but I'm not entirely sure what that means. Perhaps U.S. versions or versions for tough climates.

The book is very thorough and lists all the changes that have taken place during the course of the models. If a change had been necessary it is listed as 'Replaced by' and a Spare Part Number and also a footnote referring to the end of each chapter which tells from which chassis number the change took place.


In the book there are NO CHANGES concerning the strips around the window and THE SAME FOR ALL W108 MODELS, including the 300 SEB.

This is without any doubt a 1966-67 Mercedes 300 SEB [W108 IV] (or, as marked on the car, W108.015).

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Ingo DE

2014-01-18 14:34

bob dieck wrote So that I am convinced this car is a 1966, 1967 250 S/ SE, because those hubcaps and wheel rings were not fitted on 1968+ 280 S/SE and it has the narrow strips.

Why not a 1966 300 SE [W108] :??: Despite the badge (why should it be a fake?) everything fits, as the old wheels, the oval headlights and the short wheelbase.

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