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1974 Citroën Dyane

1974 Citroën Dyane in La piovra 4, Mini-Series, 1989 IMDB Ep. 4

Class: Cars, Hatchback — Model origin: FR

1974 Citroën Dyane

[*] Background vehicle

Comments about this vehicle

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Alexander DE

2006-10-16 19:45

In late 1969 the third side window appeared for all versions. The lower door handles appeared in 1973.

DIEHARD NL

2006-10-16 20:09

datsunZ wrote
3 lights,so Dyane 6


What do you mean by lights :??:

jplemoine FR

2006-10-16 20:10

Side-windows, maybe...

jplemoine FR

2006-10-16 20:45

datsunZ wrote


But at beginning,the Dyane 4 and Dyane 6 were distinguish the smaller,435 cc.,for have 4-lights body and the bigger,602 cc.,for have 6-lights body

BTW,still a drum brakes'Dyane,being disc at front axle only since 1977(that I believe could be)


Pas les premières D6. Ensuite, si tu peux identifier une Dyane "tambours" d'une Dyane "disques" sans lever le capot, donne-moi ton secret. Peut-être la couleur? Mais une voiture, ça se repeint...


-- Last edit: 2006-10-16 20:47:51

DIEHARD NL

2006-10-16 20:50

jplemoine wrote Side-windows, maybe...


It can't be I think....3 lights ok, but 4 or 6 lights on a Dyane :??: ;)

DatsunZ can you help us out here, what do you mean by lights??

bref FR

2006-10-16 21:01

Door handle under the side trim means and chrome bumper 1975+.

Alexander DE

2006-10-16 21:25

Chrome bumpers came in 1974:
http://www.citrobe.org/images/fol0974bl101.JPG

Low door handles in 1973:
http://www.citrobe.org/images/dyane0773dc.JPG

Third window in 1969:
http://www.citrobe.org/images/dyane0869cd.JPG


The phrase 'Six-Lights-Limousine' is used for cars with three side windows each side, together six.
This has nothing to do with the name 'Dyane 6'. This 6 stands for the engine size of 602 cm³.


-- Last edit: 2006-10-16 21:26:17

bref FR

2006-10-16 21:47

I think they appear in 1974 for 1975 model Year, only year with black rubber insert, then rubber was deleted for a black sticker (à la 204 Peugeot a couple of year before...the first Peugeot influence? :think: )

datsunZ IT

2006-10-16 22:03

DIEHARD wrote

It can't be I think....3 lights ok, but 4 or 6 lights on a Dyane :??: ;)

DatsunZ can you help us out here, what do you mean by lights??


was intended 2 windows and 3 windows for each side of the car

BTW I insist that was existed a Dyane 4 with 4 windows only(2 for each side),at debut in 1967-1968 was a unique 435cc. model,named Dyane only(the same was marketed in Italy as Dyanissima,1968-1970),when was added also the 602cc.engine,will appears the Dyane 6,so named for engine distinction;later becomes respectively Dyane 4 and Dyane 6,then remains on market only Dyane 6 model

PS I don't succeed to recognize by body if a Dyane have or not front disc brakes;I recall that thing 'cause I've read a road test of Dyane 6 and here was quoted that have disc brakes since 1977(that could be valable if model shown was 1977 such had wrongly-guessed,but by door handles,as Alexander said,it was a 1973M.Y.);but don't knew better if that option was offered already in France years before on the same car(but that thing of type of brakes doesn't matter of importance,here)

jplemoine FR

2006-10-16 22:10

Personne n'a dit le contraire quant à la Dyane à deux glaces latérales de la première année de production.

Pour le reste, et pour dater un véhicule, il vaut mieux ne pas faire confiance à un seul essai dans la presse. Mais plutôt à un catalogue, ou mieux à un historique séérieux...

Et sinon, Citroën avait la déplorable habitude de commercialiser en France des variantes sous-équipées par rapport aux versions "export". Depuis la Traction, en passant par la 2 CV (où les "six glaces", le moteur d'Ami6 et les clignotants avant et arrières avaient fait leur apparition sur certains marchés bien avant la France...

DIEHARD NL

2006-10-16 22:11

datsunZ wrote
was intended 2 windows and 3 windows for each side of the car


Thanks :)

datsunZ wrote
BTW I insist that was existed a Dyane 4 with 4 windows only(2 for each side),at debut in 1967-1968 was a unique 435cc. model,named Dyane only(the same was marketed in Italy as Dyanissima,1968-1970),when was added also the 602cc.engine,will appears the Dyane 6,so named for engine distinction;later becomes respectively Dyane 4 and Dyane 6,then remains on market only Dyane 6 model


It could be that it was perhaps a version made for the Italian market? I have seen more often Italian car where some windows 'dissapeared'and where replaced by a iron plate. Could it be that you mean such a version of the car? I have a postcard of a GS like that lying around somewhere, perhaps I ought to scan it...

Alexander DE

2006-10-16 22:17

When the Dyane first arrived in 1967 it had a 425 cm³ engine and 21 bhp. No extra number was used.
In January 1968 the 602 cm³ engine with at first 28 bhp became available and was called Dyane 6.
In March of the same year the original Dyane was replaced by the Dyane 4, now fitted with a new 435 cm³ engine developing 26 bhp.

They all had only two side windows.
http://www.citrobe.org/dyane0168.htm

bref FR

2006-10-16 22:24

First Dyane had only 4 windows (august 1967, 1968 model year)
http://www.chez.com/dyane/images/historique/34AR_67.jpg
602cc arrived in January 1968. First 602cc were called D6, then named Dyane6 in April 1968. For model Year 1970, came the 3rd window, for both Dyane4 and Dyane6. In February 1970, the Dyane4 became Dyane

jplemoine FR

2006-10-16 22:28

Alexander wrote (...) In January 1968 the 602 cm³ engine with at first 28 bhp became available and was called Dyane 6. (...)

They all had only two side windows.


Tout à fait exact, sauf... qu'en France (et peut-être à l'export, la première Dyane 6 s'appelait D6, variante très recherchée actuellement par les collectionneurs!

Précisions supplémentaires sur le marketing Citroën: au départ, la Dyane avait été conçue pour remplacer la 2 CV. Mais les premières versions de Dyane étaient équipées du triste volant en tôle de la 2 CV AZL des années cinquante, sans la troisième glace latérale. Donc: plus chère, plus moche et sans aucun autre avantage technique réel (hormis le hayon rigide. Mais il existait déjà sur la 2 CV avec l'option ENAC) par rapport à la 2 CV AZAM qu'elle était censée remplacer, autant appeler tout ça un échec des gens du marketing. Et les chiffres de vente ont suivi, naturellement. Citroën a redressé la barre plus tard,et la Dyane, quoique ne remplaçant pas la 2 CV dans le coeur du public, s'est quand même fort honnêtement vendue.

-- Last edit: 2006-10-16 22:32:28

datsunZ IT

2006-10-16 23:03


But you've forgotten that model denominations don't were the same and equal for all Countries(such an example:that which French people had known as the Ami 8 Break,we had known as the Ami 8 Weekend);at them should be added that sales starting years could vary Country by Country(remaining in Citroen topic,e.g.,the Visa was sold since 1978,but in Italy sales were started in 1979);exist also the question that much basic models of a foreign Brand don't were sold here,such as some special body trims or"limited series"models,sometimes are reserved or only at origin market or on selected export markets(e.g.,the 1981 2 CV "007" limited series wasn't marketed in Italy never,such also the LNA Enterprise delivery van--we sold the LNA saloon only)

Hope to had clarify something,now:

Here you how were named in Italy the Dyane cars:

1968-1969:435cc.Dyanissima(so-named in Italy only);602 cc.Dyane 6
1970-1974:435cc.Dyane(later Dyane 4);602 cc.Dyane 6
1975-1984:435cc.Dyane 4 no more imported since 1975,follows only sales of 602 cc.Dyane 6

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