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1926 AEC 504 Birmingham Corporation

1926 AEC 504 in 100 Years of British Buses and Trolleybuses, Documentary, 1999

Class: Bus, Double-deck — Model origin: UK

1926 AEC 504 Birmingham Corporation

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dsl SX

2014-08-24 14:24

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Any ideas on livery?

Sunbar UK

2014-08-24 14:30

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I've seen the video of this exact scene, I seem to remember Birmingham or Manchester for the early closed top bus but it needs to be found again!

Sunbar UK

2014-08-24 14:33

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"Birmingham" in the video confirmed.

Date in commentry "by the late 1920s"

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dsl SX

2014-08-24 14:48

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Entered as 1926 for closed roof

johnfromstaffs EN

2014-08-24 17:48

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Taken from http://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=13584


Birmingham Corporation Buses
By Peter Walker

Part 3: Growth of the Corporation bus fleet, 1922 - 1929

In July 1924 the first British top-covered double decker bus (101), designed by Arthur Chantrey Baker, then Chief Engineer of the undertaking, on an AEC 504 chassis, was brought into service. 106 more followed over the next two years (102 - 207), the later deliveries having pneumatic tyres - a great improvement for passengers and for the Corporation's road maintenance programme. Two experimental high-capacity six-wheel double-deckers were obtained in 1926, from Guy and Karrier (208 and 209 respectively). In 1927-29, 128 new double-deckers with bodies by five different firms on AEC 507 chassis (210-219) and ADC 507 chassis (220 - 337). There followed a batch of ten 25-seat Guy single-deckers (51 - 60 [II]) and a Leyland TD1 bus on demonstration was also purchased (99), after which followed another 20 Guy Conquests (61 - 80 [II] ). By the end of 1929 the first of a batch of 30 AEC Regent 50-seat double-deck buses (338 - 67) with enclosed rear staircases had been delivered. These were highly successful, and a further 147 buses of this basic type were to follow in the next two years.


Therefore not an NS, which was a London class type, but an AEC 504.

As in many things, where Birmingham led, London, belatedly, followed.

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dsl SX

2014-08-24 18:24

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Photo looks like a showpiece occasion with shiny new paint, not normal street. Plate looks as if GP registration = 1926 London, so may not be a genuine Birmingham batch - possibly a demonstration/approval sample?? Or plate might be OP = 1926 Birmingham issue ......

johnfromstaffs EN

2014-08-24 19:02

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Link to "archive.commercialmotor.com"

OP commenced August 1926. None of the NS buses used in London was registered in the GP series.

The first NS type bus to be fitted with pneumatic tyres was not until 1928, the above bus has pneumatics and a covered roof in 1926.

This bus cannot correctly be called an NS, the 504 had a 45hp engine, the NS was 35hp. Since "NS" was the London class designation, how can it correctly be applied to a Birmingham bus? The list above shows the vehicles bought between 1922 and 1929, and does not mention NS.

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dsl SX

2014-08-25 00:48

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Switched to 504.

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