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Neon ◊ 2013-04-09 17:35
Neptune ◊ 2013-04-09 19:19	What special meaning did the name "Thema" have? I know its successor the Lancia Kappa, Kappa was the letter K in the Greek alphabet.
S 415 GT ◊ 2013-04-09 19:20	This is the successor of the Thesis. The name Thema was also used for the predecessor of the Kappa.
Neptune ◊ 2013-04-09 19:23	Indeed, I know that, I was rather asking why Lancia chose Thema for the name of the original car from the 80’s. -- Last edit: 2013-04-09 19:30:40
S 415 GT ◊ 2013-04-09 19:24	They also used an old name on the 'Flavia'.
-- ◊ 2013-04-09 19:25	Well, Thema is also a Greek word. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/θέμα
DM-491 ◊ 2013-04-09 21:38	Whose brilliant idea was it to make a Chrylser 300 into a stupid-looking Lancia? Why didn't they just call it a Chrysler? It's not like it's actually a Lancia anyway. -- Last edit: 2013-04-09 21:43:38
Neptune ◊ 2013-04-09 22:08	To badge a Chrysler as a Lancia was stupid, but Lancia itself is not stupid. They have made some very famous cars in the past. Like the Lancia Delta for example.
cl82 ◊ 2013-04-09 22:56	@Neptune: Agreed. To me, it's one of the most fascinating marques, too, but mainly due to its history and its rallye-cars. Sadly, today the brand is more or less an empty shell- as the car shown here illustrates.
ElSaxo ◊ 2013-04-09 23:06	DM-491 wrote Whose brilliant idea was it to make a Chrylser 300 into a stupid-looking Lancia? Why didn't they just call it a Chrysler? It's not like it's actually a Lancia anyway. Probably this brilliant idea came from Turin, rather that from Detroit. Lancia created a lot of marvellous cars, but the latest Flavia and Thema are simply "unrespectful" of what Lancia was in the past. Most likely they thought that in Europe the "Lancia" brand was more well-known than "Chrysler" (except UK and Ireland, they are always an exception).
Sandie ◊ 2013-04-09 23:08	Here it is even odder: http://www.chrysler.co.uk/ypsilon
carcrasher88 ◊ 2013-04-09 23:21	...and even odder yet when you consider the Ypsilon is also sold as a Chrysler in Japan, of all places. http://www.chrysler.co.jp/ypsilon/
ElSaxo ◊ 2013-04-09 23:40	Now it's becoming embarrassing, although if these are marketed with old names: http://www.chrysler.co.za/grand_voyager/index.html#.UWSKITei89E , http://www.chrysler.co.za/12_300c/index.html#.UWSKIzei89E Well... It's enough clear that they don't trust the brand outside continental Europe...
Weasel1984 ◊ 2013-04-09 23:51	cl82 wrote Sadly, today the brand is more or less an empty shell- as the car shown here illustrates. After all better this way, than if they would like to kill the brand. Maybe better times will come. Anyway FIAT has too many brands and to me unclear idea for the Lancia. It is pity they cannot be more sporty to do not compete with the Alfas.
Neon ◊ 2013-04-10 00:15	DM-491 wrote Whose brilliant idea was it to make a Chrylser 300 into a stupid-looking Lancia? Why didn't they just call it a Chrysler? It's not like it's actually a Lancia anyway. Can't you do questions in a polite way without talk badly of a brand that you apparently don't know so much?
130rapid ◊ 2013-04-10 00:55	Bizzare 'cartress'. She tries to dance in chic Italian fashion but her American combat boots, hidden badly under ball dress, ruin all. It's an insult for Lancia lovers. Will it help Lancia to survive? I don't think so. It will extend the agony.
DM-491 ◊ 2013-04-10 01:36	Neon wrote Can't you do questions in a polite way without talk badly of a brand that you apparently don't know so much? Sorry, but I was just suprised that it is so blatantly a Chrysler yet they sell it as a Lancia anyway. And you have to admit, it just doesn't look right as a Lancia. It wasn't meant to be one. They should do both brands a favor and let Chryslers be Chryslers and Lancias be Lancias. And I am aware that Lancia has made some awesome cars in the past, like the Stratos, 032 Stradale, and Delta HF Integrale, and they should let them build cars like that again instead of rebadging Chryslers. Sorry if I caused any offense. I didn't mean Lancias were stupid, just that this one looks dumb. Please don't hate me! -- Last edit: 2013-04-10 01:47:23
electra225 ◊ 2013-04-10 06:43	Sorry to say that, but two months ago, Sergio Marchionne (a person whom I personally dislike, to be honest) told, that, due to the unsuccesfull results of the last Themas and Flavias, the Lancia brand will be eliminated at the end of the Ypsilon life.
Ingo ◊ 2013-04-10 11:33	Neptune wrote To badge a Chrysler as a Lancia was stupid, but Lancia itself is not stupid. They have made some very famous cars in the past. Like the Lancia Delta for example. Lancia is already stupid since decades, since the late 60ies. It was their first coffin-nail, when they left their position as a manufacturer of high-end premium cars for technic- and design-connaisseurs and went down to the automotive bottom, with throwing badly made rustbuckets with terrible unreliability on the market. The Lancia Delta belonged to that residuum, too. Yes, the Delta includes interesting ideas, especially about the technic - but its quality was terrible.
Ingo ◊ 2013-04-10 11:44	electra225 wrote due to the unsuccesfull results of the last Themas and Flavias, the Lancia brand will be eliminated at the end of the Ypsilon life. As to be expected. If there were really some morons in the Chrysler-headquarter, who have thought that this idea could be successful, they were hopeless idiots. Both brands, Lancia and Chrysler, don't have any good reputation in Europe, especially not in Germany. Every car-connaisseur here thinks, when he hears these two brands "A big legend in the far past, decades ago, but since many years the offer only unbearable shitty clunkers". Lancia has destroyed its reputation since the late 60ies, Chrysler since the 70ies, too. Many people have still Chrysler-Simca in the mind, which were terrible bad cars, too. The reputation of Simca in pre-Chrysler-times was better. It doesn't became better in the mid-80ies, when Chrysler tried to get a foot on the European market with their Saratogas an LeBarons, as those were unreliable, cheaply made clunkers, too. When they stuck together with Mercedes-Benz, it stayed bad. Not only the customers haven't accepted Chrysler, the Mercedes-dealers neither.
Weasel1984 ◊ 2013-04-12 22:41	electra225 wrote Sorry to say that, but two months ago, Sergio Marchionne (a person whom I personally dislike, to be honest) told, that, due to the unsuccesfull results of the last Themas and Flavias, the Lancia brand will be eliminated at the end of the Ypsilon life. So it is true. But Delta is quite succesfull (well, like fot the Lancia in context of its last 2 decades...). The Thema will be "eaten" by the new Ghibli perhaps.
dhill_cb7 ◊ 2022-07-07 16:44	DT-179-SN returns a Fiat.
Gamer ◊ 2022-07-07 16:45	electra225 wrote the Lancia brand will be eliminated at the end of the Ypsilon life. And when will that be? St. Never's Day? Nine years later and we're still waiting...

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