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◊ 2008-01-12 17:55 |
Close-up of the rear. |
◊ 2018-05-21 16:02 |
2000+ due to painted bumpers, and GPS/telephone antenna at the top of the roof. The GPS system was optional on ML320 and standard on ML430. -- Last edit: 2019-03-03 10:10:40 |
◊ 2022-01-11 18:29 |
The GPS was optional from inception. Here is the 1998 accessory brochure excerpt. Yes, indeed standard equipment for MY 2000 for the 430/55 AMG and optional on the 320. Optional on 1998-1999s. Also, 1998 & 1999 320s could have painted bumpers or had the option of this. We have a decent amount of 1998s & 1999s with painted bumpers on our site. I do not believe we should use this as a determining factor for these. https://www.benzworld.org/threads/navi-phone-antenna.1250447/ https://www.benzworld.org/threads/gps-pod-atop-dash-removal.2151713/ https://oudemercedesbrochures.nl/W163_M_Accessories_1997usa.html |
◊ 2022-01-13 02:24 |
@dhill_cb7 - what's your source on the ML320 having the option of painted bumpers in 98-99? |
◊ 2022-01-13 02:45 |
/vehicle_377212-Mercedes-Benz-ML-320-W163-1998.html /vehicle_417161-Mercedes-Benz-ML-320-W163-1998.html /vehicle_423808-Mercedes-Benz-ML-320-W163-1998.html /vehicle_338057-Mercedes-Benz-ML-320-W163-1998.html /vehicle_46569-Mercedes-Benz-ML-320-W163-1998.html /vehicle_502126-Mercedes-Benz-ML-320-W163-1998.html /vehicle_710174-Mercedes-Benz-ML-320-W163-1998.html /vehicle_776454-Mercedes-Benz-ML-320-W163-1998.html I could keep pulling more but all of those are confirmed 1998s with body colored bumpers. I don’t think this was a factory option as the build sheets don’t mention this but with all those above examples I don’t think we should use the bumpers as a determining factor? Perusing MB forums a lot of members painted or had their 320s painted because the gray bumpers were not aesthetically pleasing. -- Last edit: 2022-01-13 02:45:53 |
◊ 2022-01-13 02:58 |
Most of those are in Europe not the US. We can also look at the mirrors to determine the year - they were painted after 2000. I think if you find a 98-99 in the US with painted bumpers, it was likely done by a used car dealer to try and increase the resale value. They often skipped painting the mirrors as they're not as noticeable. -- Last edit: 2022-01-21 04:38:32 |
◊ 2022-01-13 03:21 |
Looking at aftermarket body part websites, I saw lot of primed bumpers available. Primed meaning ready to be painted. Didn't see any textured bumpers which is what the gray bumpers were. Might prove there were factory painted bumpers. Or that the textured are no longer available and someone has no choice but to buy the painted bumpers. |
◊ 2022-01-21 08:18 |
@dhill_cb7 - did you read my comment which said that many if not most 98-99 MLs that had the bumpers painted at a later stage, don't have painted mirrors? As such, if we see one with painted mirrors it's quite safe to assume it's a 2000+. -- Last edit: 2022-01-21 08:31:04 |
◊ 2022-01-21 16:02 |
I missed your comment @z2. Sorry I have had a lot going on lately and have not been able to delve back into the W163s. |