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1969 SAAB 99

1969 SAAB 99 in Bilen med nio liv, Documentary, 2011 Ep. 1

Class: Cars, Sedan — Model origin: SE

1969 SAAB 99

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atom SE

2011-05-17 03:03

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rjluna2 US

2011-05-17 03:41

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The famous ignition key between the console to lock the transmission in reverse when you remove the key.

Even though I am currently driving the 2007 Chevrolet Aveo stick shift, I still have the habit of putting it in reverse before removing the key :p

jettalover US

2011-05-17 04:09

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Why is locking the stick shift in reverse better than locking it in someother spot such as neutral? I'm an automatic trans only guy, so I'm clueless about manual transmissions.

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atom SE

2011-05-17 04:22

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It's a safety feature, if the parking brake would somehow fail you have a second safety by having a gear applied, if you would have the gearbox in neutral the car would roll if the car is parked in a slope.
SAAB have choosed the reverse gear as that have the highest ratio and thus is the "safest".

On my daily driver the parking brake doesnt't work so I have to use the gearbox to stop the car from rolling when I park the car :p

dsl SX

2011-05-17 12:26

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atom wrote SAAB have choosed the reverse gear as that have the highest ratio and thus is the "safest".

I was taught to leave it in reverse for the same reasons when parked and still do.

ingo DE

2011-05-17 13:24

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Generally it's recomended to leave a parked car with the reverse gear, because it's the shortest gear ratio. When the car is parked on a sloping place in a higher gear, without the parking brake, it can/will start to roll away.

But the Saab-trick really makes you mad, if you don't know it :mad: It happened to me, years ago, when I drove for my first time a Saab. I had to bring my friend's 1974 Saab 99 to annother parking lot. He was not there. Waah, how upset I had been, because I couldn't get the key out!! If took several minutes, filled up with aggressivity, until it made "clic" in the brain "Saab. Reverse gear." :whistle:


@atom: the same problem I had with my 1998/99 winter-car :)

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The handbrake-cable was torn, and caused by my extreme avarice, I didn't want to spend money for a new one. I only took an anglegrinder to cut all handbrake-parts out, because the rattling of the loose cable under the car made me mad. And then an old rag into the hole for the lever, for avoiding humidity in the car.
A big wooden chunk became my handbrake. It worked fine, except one time - when I had to turn on a sloping road with an trailer behind the car. Engine on, turning a bit, engine off (the reverse gear was the only brake), unclamp the trailer, turning the trailer, clamping the trailer, engine on, turning a bit more, engine off, unclamping the trailer.... After three tries it was finished :D


Btw. When you are living in the lowlands, it's absolute unneccessary to use the handbrake, IMHO an absolute girlish-idiotic manner. :o Especially in garages and for a longer time. On even ground a low or the reverse gear is enough.
How ugly it's, when the handbrake is stuck? It happens easily at humid weather or in the winter with all the salt on the roads. Or if the car isn't often used. At my K 70 and also the NSU 1200, it happend even after 20 minutes parking at rainy weather! Fortunately both times, when the cars were parked on the steep ramp of my cellar-garage, I had in Dortmund. But not only releasing the handbrake wasn't enough, also engine-power was needing, until the "clonk" came and the brake was free again.

It still reminds me an totally dense Corporal at my Bundeswehr-time. One day he had tightenend the handbrakes of all VW T3's, we had in our unit's garage, also at humid weather. The next day they stuck. It was a f.cking annoying drama to get all the cars out of the garage and to transport them to the maintenance-unit, because we couldn't unclamp then... :/

This Corporal had also the stable opinion, that the oil level has always to be checked with a running engine :o Before he came to the Army, he learned as profession: car mechanic :/

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Sandie SX

2011-05-17 13:38

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So you put the car in reverse RATHER than using the handbrake or both? I've not heard about this trick.

The other day a friend of mine parked his rented car in the dark on a bad bit of land. He gets back into it and tries to drive out of the car park. Well the car is all over the shop. He thinks it's the land he is on so he floors the motor. This made it worse and the car was skidding from side to side and burning out its tyres. It was that point he realised that he had moved the seat adjustment lever rather than the handbrake...

dsl SX

2011-05-17 13:47

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Both reverse and handbrake for me.

rjluna2 US

2011-05-17 13:49

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Not only I put my car in reverse, I also use the handbrake in place.

The only time the handbrake did failed on my 1988 Oldsmobile Calais International Edition is when my engine failed, I applied the handbrake in place and I heard and felt snapped. I end up putting the gear in place to prevent rolling down. I was at the middle of the road just finished going uphill when the engine failed. I presumed that the handbrake failed due to the Illinois' winter salting the road. :/

atom SE

2011-05-17 13:51

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Ingo, we have already had this discussion but I will say it again then, I find it rather stupid to not use the parking brake at a daily basis. If you don't use it the internal workings will start to corrode and it will get stuck. I had a B Kadett that was like that, everytime I parked it, the parking brake got stuck and I had to bang on the wheel with a piece of pipe to get it loose. Probably because the brake wasn't used enough when I bought the car. I bought it from some clueless kids and before them some old lady had used the car since almost new. Obviously the acc-pump was stuck too because it was never used. Both the acc-pump and the parking brake worked fine after I exercised them.
But I agree that for longer parkings like over the winter and such you should avoid to use the parking brake.

Both you and your car will be healthy with some exercise :p

ingo DE

2011-05-17 13:52

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@Sandie: Only the reverse gear. Or the first gear, it depends, in which direction the car is parked. I choose always the gear, I'll need for the next time. But never with handbrake, only on sloping ground I use it. And before I had to park the car on sloping ground for a longer time, I always turn on the handbrake two, three time before that, when I'm still driving. To grind the brakedrums or -discs and the pads clean.

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ingo DE

2011-05-17 13:54

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@atom: as writte above, for brake-cleaning and maintenance, I use it while driving.

atom SE

2017-03-24 12:07

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License plate P43045. P = Älvsborgs län.

tore-40 NO

2018-10-09 19:46

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List as 1970?

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