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1913 Hispano-Suiza Alfonso XIII

1913 Hispano-Suiza Alfonso XIII in The Last Emperor, Movie, 1987 IMDB

Class: Cars, Convertible — Model origin: FR

1913 Hispano-Suiza Alfonso XIII

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sixcyl FR

2006-06-27 19:15

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OM 469 Torpedo - 1922...very close to, but head lights are a little bit to low and ahead :/

-- Last edit: 2006-06-27 19:17:25

Raul1983 FI

2008-05-20 22:46

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Such a shame that there isn't a good catalogue made of early European car manufacturers (c.1890-1940). A thoroughly complete catalogue eg. Standard Catalogue of American Cars - book serie (eternal source of new information!) is of great help in identifying work. There are very good car encyclopedias published in Italy, Germany and France about their own products in early motoring history. These are almost always not written in English. Europe is divided by language barriers which greatly hinder communication between big automotive nations. Knowledge remains inside countries and information is centered on elderly people who are not connected to the Internet.

Also two world wars greatly reduced the number of old cars in Europe because need for steel was high. Therefore there isn't nearly as many vintage cars here than is in the US and so interest is very low towards these vehicles. It seems no one really cares about these vehicles. And why would someone care? People who were alive when these cars were new haven't lived for decades now. Is it just ancient history now ? Excuse my rant ;)

Now about this car. British Standard?

http://www.standardmotorclub.org.uk/images/veteran/1913rhyl.jpg

-- Last edit: 2008-05-20 22:49:28

chris40 UK

2008-05-21 10:27

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I don't think so: it seems smaller than the Unknown and has artillery wheels, not wire-spoked.
Raul, the nearest thing I recall to what you want I found in the reference section of a public library I no longer use. I can't remember the title, unfortunately, but if you type 'Georgano' into Google you might find what you're looking for, as G.N. Georgano - and his various collaborators, who include Nick Baldwin and Lord Montagu of Beaulieu - have probably as encyclopaedic a knowledge of early cars as anyone.

Raul1983 FI

2008-05-21 17:27

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I have Georgano's Complete Encyclopedia of Motorcars 1st edition from 1968 and three-part 3rd edition from 1985. He is a great historian and was the first to publish a car encyclopedia. For friends of German makes I recommend Werner Oswald's 'Deutsche Autos' book serie. It is divided to three parts; 1885-1920, 1920-1945 and 1945-1990. It has a discription of all important German car manufacturers. Also he has wrote a similar serie of German and East-German (GDR) truck manufacturers and divided into several parts aswell.

-- Last edit: 2008-05-21 17:28:28

marco69 IT

2015-08-23 22:14

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Hispano Suiza "Alfonso XIII", 1913.
I'm sure because I remember a piece on an italian classic cars magazine (Ruoteclassiche, mid-1988) regarding the car fleet choosen for this film.

-- Last edit: 2015-08-24 07:39:30

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