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1950 GAZ M-12 ZIM

1950 GAZ M-12 ZIM in Tridtsat tri, Movie, 1965 IMDB

Class: Cars, Limousine — Model origin: SU

1950 GAZ M-12 ZIM

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der.krusche AT

2006-05-13 17:33

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a GAZ 12 ZIM?

does it match?
http://www.kultur.at/van/flame/flame03/set01/b227.htm

:-))
martin

-- Last edit: 2006-05-13 17:35:38

pilou BE

2006-05-14 13:14

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Agree , front is that of a GAZ 12 ZIM

Nightrider RU

2006-05-14 13:38

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Originally this car was named just ZIM,and still no one call it GAZ1 2

der.krusche AT

2006-05-14 14:22

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well, guys, how to list it? as ZIM?

:-))
martin

antp BE

2006-05-14 18:21

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Even if nobody calls it "GAZ 12", it seems common on internet. And as the car was produced by GAZ...

der.krusche AT

2006-05-14 18:32

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antp wrote Even if nobody calls it "GAZ 12", it seems common on internet. And as the car was produced by GAZ...


the one I shot in st. petersburg is bearing the GAZ-logo:
http://www.van.at/flame/flame03/set01/zim12c.jpg

:-))
martin

p.s.:
I found this fine russian site:
http://www.museum.ru/M2547item

the gaz 12 *zim* ist named: Автомобиль легковой ГАЗ-12 "ЗИМ"

the gaz 12 *chaika*: ГАЗ-13 "Чайка"



-- Last edit: 2006-05-14 18:46:32

Nightrider RU

2006-05-15 08:01

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When production of car started,factory was called ZIM! Later it was switched to GAZ,but models came with M letter in name. When Molotov was kicked-off,they lost M letter and...

der.krusche AT

2006-05-15 10:55

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Nightrider wrote When production of car started,factory was called ZIM! Later it was switched to GAZ,but models came with M letter in name. When Molotov was kicked-off,they lost M letter and...


ah, a molotov-factor ;-)))

well, for listing it maybe could help to use the signs, they had at last time of production.

:-))
martin

Nightrider RU

2006-05-15 17:08

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All letterings,including letterings on wheelcovers says ZIM. And in old encyclopedia of 1951 year it means as ZIM.

Nightrider RU

2006-05-15 17:09

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And it's limo too,not a sedan

der.krusche AT

2006-05-15 22:48

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Nightrider wrote And it's limo too,not a sedan

you are right: three windows!
http://www.van.at/flame/flame03/set01/b227.htm

really a big rig!

:-))
martin

-- Last edit: 2006-05-15 22:49:26

antp BE

2006-05-15 22:51

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Note that the "three window" definition is not the only definition. It is the French definition, and so it does not especially works in all cases :p
There was a debate about that, by the way: http://imcdb.opencommunity.be/forum_topic-6-Limousines.html

der.krusche AT

2006-05-16 05:52

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antp wrote Note that the "three window" definition is not the only definition.

interesting debate. I think, it makes sense, taking 3 or more lateral windows as a criteria for this term on THIS project / site.

this is a very *american point of view*, but it works well for a database.

we would get mad, using all those different ways of naming bodies / coachwork, as it was still used in europe.

even as we dont have terms like "fullsizer" and so on.

:-))
martin

Nightrider RU

2006-05-16 07:37

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And that:actually at moment plant was named Gorkovsky Avtomobilnuy Zavod Imeni Molotova...so GAZ and ZIM just two abbrevations of same name....I really like it. Looks like they made it to confuse us.

der.krusche AT

2006-05-16 08:45

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Nightrider wrote And that:actually at moment plant was named Gorkovsky Avtomobilnuy Zavod Imeni Molotova...so GAZ and ZIM just two abbrevations of same name....I really like it. Looks like they made it to confuse us.


we should write to the director and tell him to clear that situation.

;-))
martin

antp BE

2006-05-16 09:58

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der.krusche wrote
interesting debate. I think, it makes sense, taking 3 or more lateral windows as a criteria for this term on THIS project / site.

this is a very *american point of view*, but it works well for a database.

It does not work all the time.
But if you give a higher priority to hatchback, and then if it is not a hatchback but that it has 3 window it is a limo, it may work.
(to exclude the Renault 4 from limousines for example, as it is a limousine according to french definition, but not really what we would put in the "limousine" category)

-- Last edit: 2006-05-16 10:00:01

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