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1959 Rolls-Royce Silver Cloud II Standard Steel Saloon

1959 Rolls-Royce Silver Cloud II in Superfantagenio, Movie, 1986 IMDB

Class: Cars, Sedan — Model origin: UK

1959 Rolls-Royce Silver Cloud II Standard Steel Saloon

[*][*][*][*] Vehicle used a lot by a main character or for a long time

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AuthorMessage

Bonnascope ES

2010-08-05 20:04

This could be a "Silver Cloud II"?

DynaMike NL

2010-08-05 20:14

Or a I, depending on the engine... (V8 or 6-in-line).

chris40 UK

2010-08-05 21:08

I'm not certain, but I think it's a Cloud II. I've just found out the difference between (home market) I and II: The I had headlights with a 'spider' (bulb shroud), and the II had plain old sealed beams.

-- Last edit: 2010-08-05 21:09:33

DynaMike NL

2010-08-05 21:29

Thanks Chris. It is nice to have a distinguishing feature between I and II Clouds. But would this also apply to US versions?

chris40 UK

2010-08-05 21:50

Er ... no, I'm afraid not. According to Wikipedia:
Headlamp styling in the United States, 1940–1983

In 1940, a consortium of state motor vehicle administrators standardised upon a system of two 7 in (178 mm) round sealed beam headlamps on all vehicles – the only system allowed for 17 years.

Kazimann IE

2010-08-05 22:05

It's RHD though.

chris40 UK

2010-08-05 22:11

I know ... that's why I said it was a Cloud II.

rjluna2 US

2010-08-06 02:17

chris40 wrote Er ... no, I'm afraid not. According to Wikipedia:
Headlamp styling in the United States, 1940–1983

In 1940, a consortium of state motor vehicle administrators standardised upon a system of two 7 in (178 mm) round sealed beam headlamps on all vehicles – the only system allowed for 17 years.

UK did have sealed beam headlights at one point...

chris40 UK

2010-08-06 09:20

I know, but IIRC not until the late 60s/early 70s (Lucas being behind the times as usual). I had them on a 1970 Cortina II; they weren't the best headlights I've used, but they weren't bad.

bentleydriver BE

2011-10-03 13:34

Some parts are missing on this car ...

Gamer DE

2014-07-11 16:37

A Silver Cloud in the clouds. :D

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dsl SX

2014-07-11 17:55

bentleydriver wrote Some parts are missing on this car ...

To help it take off on short runways.

johnfromstaffs EN

2014-07-11 18:22

chris40 wrote I'm not certain, but I think it's a Cloud II. I've just found out the difference between (home market) I and II: The I had headlights with a 'spider' (bulb shroud), and the II had plain old sealed beams.


But.........

As I have said before, it takes about ten minutes to change both headlamps, one screw at the bottom and a plug-in cable, so, to my certain knowledge as a Bentley owner, no guide at all.


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" Those amongst us who try to date post war Bentleys by looking at the presence or otherwise of headlamp spiders may care to ponder upon this car, which should have them but hasn't, probably due to being retrofitted with sealed beam units that dip to the right and emit yellow light."




-- Last edit: 2014-07-11 18:33:58

chris40 UK

2014-07-11 19:23

@johnfromStaffs: I take your point, but we have to find some criterion for identifying Clouds I/II even if only in the UK. To be honest, I've used P700s as well as sealed beams, and I preferred the former.

ElSaxo IT

2014-07-11 19:27

I didn't remember that in this film was present also Janet Agren.

Good times were when Italy was still able to attract Scandinavian girls...

johnfromstaffs EN

2014-07-11 20:16

To quote from Graham Robson's book; "Rolls-Royce and Bentley: Volume 1, Standard Production Models 1945 to 1965 (Motor Racing Publications 1984)": -

"Externally, it was well-nigh impossible to pick a V-8 engine from a six-cylinder engine car, except that purely for detailed styling purposes the front ventilation air intakes were now coloured black. There were no new badges, no new items of decoration, and no gratuitous changes for change's sake. There was even only one exhaust outlet,(alongside the left-side rear overrider) for this new engine."

However I have looked at Series 1s and Series 2s and can see no difference.

-- Last edit: 2014-07-11 20:19:50

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