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1976 Princess 1800 [ADO71]

1976 Princess 1800 [ADO71] in Sweeney!, Movie, 1977 IMDB

Class: Cars, Sedan — Model origin: UK

1976 Princess 1800 [ADO71]

[*][*] Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene

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BeanBandit FI

◊ 2006-04-23 20:02

 Another Austin Princess.

Sunbar UK

◊ 2006-04-23 20:10

 Princess [ADO71] S-reg 1978

'18/22' in 1975
'Princess' 1976
'Ambassador' in 1982

jplemoine FR

◊ 2006-04-23 20:36

 Princess 1800, 1975. A gauche, Austin Maxi, à partir de 1969 (là, je ne peux pas reconnaître la finition, mais je n'ai pas l'oeil suffisamment affûté...), et à droite, un cadeau pour DIEHARD!

Sunbar UK

◊ 2006-04-23 21:18

 Princess is not the brand name but the model.

It is correctly called Austin Princess 2 Litre. (Model year 1976 the car is actually 1977-78)
Later Leyland Princess 2200 - I'm trying to identify when the Austin name was dropped.

http://www.austin-rover.co.uk/bromkt1078f.htm

In 1975 the '18/22' series was sold as Austin and Morris versions plus a Wolseley version.

In October 1975 (model year 1976 therefore) the '18/22' range was changed to the Princess model.

For the time being I've set the maker as unknoen . Either Austin or Leyland....Leyland I think is most probable.

The 1800cc model had the rectangular headlights, while the 2200cc model had four round lights I believe.

-- Last edit: 2006-04-23 22:32:44

Sunbar UK

◊ 2006-04-23 22:35

 It appears the Leyland name was used not Austin in the UK when Princess was first used as a model.

The Austin brochure above is for an export model - the 2 litre not used in the UK, only 1800cc and 2200cc.

'Leyland Princess'

jplemoine FR

◊ 2006-04-23 22:51

 Alors là, les Princess... selon les bouquins, je les trouve sous les marques: Leyland, Austin, Morris et Princess. Sans oublier BLMC. Et le tout seulement pour la France! (quoique on a été capable de faire aussi fort, lors de la re-création de Talbot: je me souviens d'une 1510 avec le sigle Talbot sur la calandre, le Pentastar Chrysler au centre du volant, et Simca sur la carte grise. Tiercé dans le désordre?

jplemoine FR

◊ 2006-04-23 23:06

 Pour les phares, et selon mes sources (mais maintenant, je ne jurerais de rien...), les 1800 avaient les 4 phares ronds, et les 2200 les grands phares en amande...

sixcyl FR

◊ 2006-04-23 23:29

 Leyland? :??: .... in such a case all the British Leyland Motor Corporation makes of that period (Austin, Morris, Rover, Triumph, etc... ) should be named as Leyland (or British Leyland ?) as there were all of them badged, sometime on the car, sometime on the documentations, with the L logo in addition with historical name, but up to me it is nonsense, because the orignal makes were kept as commercial makes even under Leyland banner... Up to me it is an Austin Princess , as the Opel are Opel and Vauxhall are Vauxhall ( would we have idea to name them as GM? ) :/

DAF555 SE

◊ 2006-04-23 23:35

 I don´t have any reference available for the moment, but I think these were sold as Leyland Princess in Sweden. At least some years, but I might remember wrong.

sixcyl FR

◊ 2006-04-23 23:40

 Ok, then if it is a Swedish registred car, but it seems to be an english... In france , there were named as Austin even if there were sold by BLMC commercial network (....all garages had the L logo, but the cars are either Austin, Rover, etc...)

antp BE

◊ 2006-04-23 23:46

 http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/3668/leyland772fr.jpg
They seemed to use Princess as a make, indicating that it was produced by Leyland like other English makes.

Alexander DE

◊ 2006-04-23 23:56

 The ADO71 started as the 18-22 series under the brand names Austin, Morris and Wolseley in the spring of 1975. Six month later the three brand names were removed and only a single brand name was used since: 'Princess'.

In the 'Princess' line the models 1800 and 1800HL had the double round headlights and the 2200HL and 2200HLS had the trapezoidal lamps.

So this car is a Princess 1800 [ADO71] from 1977 ('S' reg = August 1977 to July 1978, film was released in 1977).

sixcyl FR

◊ 2006-04-24 00:09

 ..ah ces histoires d'ADO ! ... I feel better :lol:

jplemoine FR

◊ 2006-04-24 10:52
sixcyl wrote Leyland? :??: .... in such a case all the British Leyland Motor Corporation makes of that period (Austin, Morris, Rover, Triumph, etc... ) should be named as Leyland (or British Leyland ?) as there were all of them badged, sometime on the car, sometime on the documentations, with the L logo in addition with historical name, but up to me it is nonsense, because the orignal makes were kept as commercial makes even under Leyland banner... Up to me it is an Austin Princess , as the Opel are Opel and Vauxhall are Vauxhall ( would we have idea to name them as GM? ) :/
et au point où on en est, les Citroën PSA? Le débat est ouvert, j'ai pas de réponse catégorique... en tout cas, merci Alexander! Vielen Dank für alles, aber wir sind nur am Anfang eines schwierigen Weges... :D

Sunbar UK

◊ 2006-04-24 15:23

 I'm sure this discussion could go on for some time. ;)

Just some personal observations....not necessarily 'facts', just as I remember it.

Leyland in the UK was never considered as being a car 'make' or marque. 'Leyland' as a brand in modern times, made trucks in the car-buyers view. Alternatively British Leyland Ltd. was the successor to BMC as being the owner of the brands like Austin, Morris etc.

The 'Princess' was sold through Austin Morris dealerships. However badging on the car did not include the Austin or Morris names. Brochures and publicity included 'Austin Morris' and 'British Leyland' logos.

In my view, the car was known as an Austin Princess at the time.

One fact that I can confirm. I've checked four preserved Princess cars. All are registered with the DVLA licencing authority as 'Austin Morris' as the make. Model years 1978, 1979, 1980 and 1981. I can find none that are listed a 'Princess' as the make, nor does this DVLA site include 'Princess' as a known make without it being inserted manually.

As I said, just some observations. I don't believe 'Princess' was in common usage as a make, even if British Leyland intended it to be.

DAF555 SE

◊ 2006-05-01 23:46
DAF555 wrote I don´t have any reference available for the moment, but I think these were sold as Leyland Princess in Sweden. At least some years, but I might remember wrong.


I´ve checked now and they were all registered as Leyland Princess 1800 HL here between 1975 and 1979, the only model we had of these. The Minis are also Leyland Mini 1000 between 1977-79. After that both the cars and the name dissappeared from our market.

marsh EN

◊ 2007-01-13 16:05

 After the first six months of production as the 18-22 series, from September 1975 'Princess' replaced the individual marques of Austin, Morris and Wolseley. The cars were sold by Austin-Morris dealers in the UK and technically the manufacturer was Leyland Cars, more usually shortened to Leyland. 'Princess' was just a convenient way to simplify the already confused marketing strategy in place at the time, hence all of the discussion here! Bear in mind the film was made in 1976 and set two years into the future, so the car seen here,as are any others carrying 'S' registrations were false as 'R' plates were current between August 1976 and July 1977, so this car had to be a '76. You can also see this is one of the 'Princess' marque cars, with no Austin/Morris/Wolseley badging.

-- Last edit: 2007-01-20 13:12:44

crazyforcars12 EN

◊ 2007-07-30 09:16

 The car is a Leyland Princess, an older model, the Austin name was NOT used in the UK, so it can't possibly be an Austin!

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