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◊ 2009-11-01 19:46 |
8. Dollar hin, Dollar her |
◊ 2009-11-01 20:57 |
Must be a Triumph... Spitfire ? |
◊ 2009-11-02 07:22 |
With an open engine-hood. In German eyes an typical scenery for British cars of the 70ies. A Triumph Spitfire was one of the winners of the "Silberne Zitrone" of the ADAC, a prize for the worst car with the most defects. The owner got the prize, the maker the bad press. It's a shame, that this award was stopped in 1978. The last winner was a Ford Granada II. This "Silberne Zitrone"-award really had soem influence. The selling of the Spitfire was going down after that. The worst effect had Matra Simca in 1975, when a Bagheera got the price. The selling really collapsed and they never could get rid of the reputation. Even now, 34 years later, Matra Bagheera-freaks have to hear the "Zitronen-Story" many times, when anyone sees the car. Btw.: one year a K 70 was close to win this prize, but it only made the 2nd or 3rd place, so the shame was forgotten quite soon. |
◊ 2009-11-02 07:27 |
In the background an ADO 16, quite rare in Germany. @Ralph: was the location of this episode a car-dealer? I think so, by these British cars, visible (the Jaguar, too). What's the white car in the background left? BMW "Neue Klasse"? |
◊ 2009-11-03 13:26 |
Triumph, oui. Et c'est la seule certitude... ça peut être une Spitfire, une GT6 voire une Herald... Il y a aussi un problème pour dater. La couleur jaune que l'on voit ici (Mimosa Yellow) n'apparait au nuancier qu'en février 1973. Or l'épisode est diffusé en mai 1972... @ingo: I'm proud to drive my 1967 Spifire Mk3 each day. It's a good car, whatever the ADAC's price. Silberne Zitrone or any other. |
◊ 2009-11-03 20:09 |
Still with the original electric equipment, made by Lucas? "Lucas. The founder of the electrical darkness", this nickname is not unknown by classic car-freaks. |
◊ 2009-11-03 20:15 |
Yes a well known 'joke'. Also: "Do you know why the british drinks warm beer?" "Because they have Lucas refrigerators" |
◊ 2009-11-03 23:07 |
Yes still with the original electric equipment. But it was a Remy Delco. Lucas ignition appears with the MK IV and the 1500. And your K70? No problem with it? It's a perfect car? |
◊ 2009-11-04 11:09 |
@Bebert: in the last 11 1/2 years, since I own it, I had some defects, but all caused by the age, not by the quality of the making. This is important for me, because reliability is important for me, even of old cars. So "perfect" for me indeed. O.k., you have to remind the fact, that I've decided as a small boy in the 70ies, to drive a K 70, when I'm old enough. So I did. |
◊ 2009-11-04 16:48 |
Exactly the same for my Spitfire. Only defects caused by the age... Then no Zilberne Zitrone...for me and all the "Spitouistes" that drive this car now... And you have to remind the fact, that I've decided as a small boy in the middle of 60ies, to drive a Spitfire, when I'm old enough. So I did. |
◊ 2009-11-04 19:02 |
Its very unusual for a British car in the 1960s to have anything other than a Lucas ignition system. Having worked for Delco-Remy I know they were mostly found on Vauxhalls and Bedfords all being parts of GM. Ford UK or the other British companies would really only buy from Lucas, being cheaper. However, for a few years before electronic engine rev-counters became common, Delco-Remy in the UK had an ignition distributor with a cable drive that was used to drive the rev-counter. Introduced on the Vauxhall VX/490, some car makers did use it until the Smiths Instruments electronic version was available at low cost. Bebert, for my interest, was that the reason Triumph used Delco-Remy? Does your tachometer run from a cable drive, similar to a speedometer cable? -- Last edit: 2009-11-04 19:31:50 |
◊ 2009-11-04 19:38 |
Sorry, Sunbar... I don't know the reason why Triumph used Remy-Delco before Lucas... And yes, the tachometer run from a cable. a little short, moreover… |
◊ 2009-11-04 19:47 |
... that's the reason then. If its a speedometer type cable drive from the distributor to the tachometer, its because Triumph could not buy the Smiths electronic version at the time. By the way its Delco-Remy - Made by AC-Delco in the UK - not Remy Delco. |
◊ 2010-07-24 18:27 |
It's an ADO 16 Mk2, 1968+ Austin 1300. Dating the Spitfire as Mk3 with Leyland logo. -- Last edit: 2015-05-02 18:05:23 |