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Kowalski ◊ 2009-07-06 17:23
Weasel1984 ◊ 2009-07-06 17:33	Better than before face lift.
Kowalski ◊ 2009-07-06 17:59	Actually, it looks even uglier than before. What a hateful little car.
Neptune ◊ 2009-07-06 22:49	Maybe if they would do away with the grille that extends far into bumper, it may make it look better.
CarChasesFanatic ◊ 2009-07-06 22:51	I had to get used to it firstly, it looked odd at first glance when the car appeared for the first time, but it's ok now, i'm used to it, i like it.
Kowalski ◊ 2009-07-08 15:38	Can you say flimsy? Nasty fake wheel nuts: As you can see, the hubcaps are held to the edges rather than held by the wheel nuts; Hit a pothole or even drive at motorway speeds and wave the hubcap goodbye. Fit and finish FAIL! Ugly, flimsy and not that cheap. AVOID! -- Last edit: 2009-07-08 16:12:38
antp ◊ 2009-07-08 15:41	Kowalski wrote As you can see, the hubcaps are attached to the edges rather than attached by the wheel nuts; isn't it always like that? (those of the Peugeot 106 & 206 are like that) -- Last edit: 2009-07-08 15:41:59
CarChasesFanatic ◊ 2009-07-08 15:49	Indeed... since when are hubcaps attached with nuts instead of to the edges... it's the alloy to have nuts to (obviously) be held, unless he means another thing.
Kowalski ◊ 2009-07-08 16:12	carchasesfanatic wrote Indeed... since when are hubcaps attached with nuts instead of to the edges... it's the alloy to have nuts to (obviously) be held, unless he means another thing. I meant held by the wheel nuts.
Kowalski ◊ 2009-07-08 16:22	The Aveo they tested costs £9,355. For the same price you can buy a Hyundai I20 1.2 5 door for £9,000 and you do get a fairly amount of kit and a five year warranty.
ProwlerX ◊ 2009-07-08 17:34	Kowalski wrote I meant held by the wheel nuts. All cars in America are just like that. The hubcaps have plastic nuts, but they're attached by the edges. I don't know what the distributers were thinking.
chicomarx ◊ 2009-07-08 18:24	They are all like that, you often see one hanging on a tree. some helpful person trying to get it back to its owner.
G-MANN ◊ 2009-07-08 19:38	Kowalski wrote For the same price you can buy a Hyundai I20 1.2 5 door for £9,000 and you do get a fairly amount of kit and a five year warranty. Or you could buy a used Focus or Golf or something else that's actually good but second-hand, that's what I'd rather do. -- Last edit: 2009-07-08 19:39:55
Ingo ◊ 2009-07-08 20:32	rjluna2 wrote Based on GM Daewoo [T250]. Is this for the British market? Not only for Britain. All around in Europe all Daewoo-models were sold since a while as Chevrolet. Was Daewoo Germany (the automotive group of the Daewoo-company) the only European dependance, which was collapsed by bankrupcy?
Ingo ◊ 2009-07-08 20:37	Kowalski wrote Actually, it looks even uglier than before. What a hateful little car. Unfortunately nowadays you can see more and more of these in Germany - a result of the 2500 € "Abwrackprämie" wrecking-bonus. For this piece of sh.. late 90ies Audi A4, Mercedes C-Klasse, VW Golf III, Vento, Ford Mondeos, Opel Vectras and many more were crushed... But the latest lough is the best lough - I will be malicious glee in a few years, when the owners will try to sell them again. Who shall be so stupid and have the will to buy it.?
Gag Halfrunt ◊ 2009-07-08 21:38	ingo wrote Was Daewoo Germany (the automotive group of the Daewoo-company) the only European dependance, which was collapsed by bankrupcy? If you're referring to the collapse of Daewoo in 1999: GM bought some Daewoo Motor assets and established GM Daewoo (GMDAT) in 2002. The only overseas asset that GM acquired was Daewoo's share of VIDAMCO in Vietnam. The truck division was bought by Tata and Daewoo Bus belongs to...none of the above. FSO became independent. UkrAVTO (owner of ZAZ) built up a majority stake and FSO now does contract assembly for GMDAT. Daewoo Automobile Romania (Automobile Craiova, the former Oltcit factory) was renationalised in 2006, but Wikipedia doesn't say who actually owned it between 2002 and 2006. It was bought by Ford last year. Avia in the Czech Republic likewise emerged as an independent company and was bought in 2007 by Ashok Leyland. UzDaewooAuto, a joint venture between Daewoo and the Uzbekistan government, continued in business. In 2005, the government bought Daewoo's stake, reportedly for $110 million (presumably going to Daewoo's creditors). They still make the Nexia and first generation Matiz. -- Last edit: 2009-07-08 21:38:34
Neptune ◊ 2009-07-08 22:52	ProwlerX wrote All cars in America are just like that. The hubcaps have plastic nuts, but they're attached by the edges. I don't know what the distributers were thinking. Not all American cars have base plain steel wheels with stick on wheel covers that simulate spokes. The cheaper cars do, but more expensive cars have real alloy wheels, with real spokes. i.e. Ford did put plain steel or aluminium wheels with wheel covers on the Crown Victoria. But snazzy real alloy wheels were available.
Ingo ◊ 2009-07-10 09:20	@Gag: thanks for the infos. Where are the Chevrolets (the disguised Daewoos) for the European market produced today? Poland or Romania? Is the whole "Chevrolet-Daewoo"-range from there or are some models imported from Korea?
Gag Halfrunt ◊ 2009-07-10 18:25	Not Romania, because the Craiova factory was bought by Ford and production of Daewoo models ended in June 2008 according to Wikipedia. It seems that the Aveo is assembled by FSO, but the rest are presumably imported from South Korea: http://www.fso-sa.com.pl/news/dwnews.html#new_Aveo
Weasel1984 ◊ 2009-07-10 19:45	Polish made Aveos are, like for now, not exported to the EU countries (in fact they are rare even here). Everything is from Korea I think, except the Captiva, which seems is made somwhere in Europe (or at least they planned to make it in one of the Opel plants).
twingoman ◊ 2009-07-10 20:22	I think the Captiva/Antara is also made in Korea, as well as Thailand, Mexico & Russia.
rjluna2 ◊ 2009-07-13 00:42	ingo wrote Not only for Britain. All around in Europe all Daewoo-models were sold since a while as Chevrolet. Except this example is right hand drive.... -- Last edit: 2009-07-13 00:43:02
cl82 ◊ 2009-07-14 14:21	@Ingo: You're totally right. I live ca. 1 km from a scrapyard, and besides the cars you mentioned, they crush even more valuable cars like BMW E 30,32,34 and 36, a lot of them equipped with wood interior and leather seats. Apart from that, of course Mercedes A-Klasse, 190, W 124( even two nice W 123, one of them was a T-Model). Not to forget Audi B4/C4. I even saw those guys wrecking not only a 1999 Alfa 159, equipped with all extras but also one of the last Volkswagen Beetles, probably made in Emden. As we already know-it's a mad world.
Ingo ◊ 2009-07-14 22:53	Falls ein K 70 dort auftauchen sollte, sag bitte Bescheid. Danke.
cl82 ◊ 2009-07-14 23:02	Geht klar, aber auch wenn die Lage wie beschrieben momentan völlig absurd ist, bin ich doch der Meinung, dass es zu einer derart bizarren Situation nicht kommen wird, oder irre ich mich? So viel ich weiss, sind bei Euch in der K 70 Szene die Teile derart rar, dass sie jedem, der tatsächlich noch ein Schlachtfahrzeug besitzt, förmlich aus der Hand gerissen werden dürften. Ich selbst habe vor ca. 10 Jahren das letzte Mal einen - relativ guterhaltenen, ockerfarbenen- K 70 auf der Strasse gesehen, und zwar in dem kleinen, stockkonservativen Provinznest in der Nähe von Heilbronn, wo ich aufgewachsen bin. Inzwischen finde ich kaum noch die Zeit, dort hinzufahren, aber mein Bruder, der noch dort wohnt, hat gemeint, dass der Wagen zwar noch existiert, der Besitzer ihn aber zwecks Restaurierung längst abgestellt hat.
Ingo ◊ 2009-07-14 23:15	Nun ja, bei Gebrauchtteilen sieht es nicht so schlimm aus. Meist ist da nur wenig zu verwerten. Das, was immer vergammelt ist, ist da auch nicht brauchbar, und die Teile, die nie kaputtgehen, kommen einem sowieso zu den Ohren heraus. Lieber ein totalen Trümmerhaufen mit zwei, drei besonderen Teilen, als ein Komplettfahrzeug, bei dem jedes Teil angegammelt oder vermackt ist. Das schmeißt du früher oder später ohnehin weg. Colorverglasung ausbauen und den Rest einstampfen. Das hatte ich schon. Ein anderes Mal hatte nur die Bedienungsanleitung rausgenommen. Mehr war nicht sinnvoll. Bei HN? In der Heimat des "schwäbischen Stiefkindes" gibt es aber durchaus ein paar K 70-Freaks. Auch einige NSU-Kenner haben noch einen. Unsere Szene ist so klein, wir kennen uns alle, weltweit. Dein Bruder mag dem Eigner sagen, daß es Teile bei uns gibt. Und zwar nur bei uns. A propos "Heimat": diesen Chor hat es wirklich gegeben: /vehicle_150554-NSU-TT-1968.html
cl82 ◊ 2009-07-14 23:45	Ja, die Geschichte kenne ich. Ich war damals selbst bei einer der Veranstaltungen, auch wenn ich die Szene selber nicht erlebt habe, doch ein Bekannter, der übrigens damals wie heute nichts auf seine Quickly kommen lässt, hat mir das sinngemäss erzählt. Die sogenannten "Audianer" sind aber auch ein Volk für sich und lassen die wirklich interessante NSU-Geschichte gerne zu kurz kommen. Die "echten" NSU-ler waren wohl weniger überheblich, als es die heutigen Verantwortlichen bei Audi Neckarsulm, welche ihrer Macht sehr wohl bewusst sind und diese auch immer wieder gerne ausnutzen bzw. ihren Einfluss missbrauchen, sind; schliesslich haben sie um 1975 mit extrem mutigen und konsequenten Streikaktionen und Demos die Schliessung des Werks Neckarsulm, die damals - dank Toni Schmücker- ja fast schon beschlossene Sache war, abgewendet, und heute arbeiten allein im Audi-Werk um die 13000 Beschäftigte. Zählt man die ganzen Zulieferer und sonstigen Partner dazu, kommt man leicht auf das dreifache. Der Automobilsektor hat dieser doch recht knorrigen Region zwar Jahrzehnte des Wohlstands gebracht, doch zeigt sich eben seit Beginn der Finanzkrise einmal mehr, dass die dort entstandene einseitige Monostruktur die Anfälligkeit Krisen gegenüber verstärkt hat. -- Last edit: 2014-12-30 22:33:36
TheHeartbreakKid15 ◊ 2009-08-16 17:32	The vehicle details for VO09 CBY are: Date of Liability 01 03 2010 Date of First Registration 01 03 2009 Year of Manufacture 2009 Cylinder Capacity (cc) 1206CC CO2 Emissions 132g/Km Fuel Type Petrol Export Marker Not Applicable Vehicle Status Licence Not Due Vehicle Colour RED Vehicle Type Approval M1
rjluna2 ◊ 2009-10-02 22:39	Thanks TheHeartbreakKid15, the export marker is not applicable means made for British market.
Gag Halfrunt ◊ 2009-10-03 01:24	No, it means that the car has not been recorded as exported after being registered in the UK.
rjluna2 ◊ 2009-10-03 01:36	Oh, thanks Gag. I think I misunderstand what Export Marker means, now you have explained to me..
G-MANN ◊ 2009-11-12 21:08	Got one of these as a rental car last weekend, to think I could have had a Renault Clio I don't like the way the badge is below the front grille.
tonkatracker ◊ 2009-11-12 23:39	ProwlerX wrote All cars in America are just like that. The hubcaps have plastic nuts, but they're attached by the edges. I don't know what the distributers were thinking. Actually there are a lot of cars in America equipped with hubcaps that are held on by the lug-nuts. Hondas have them, as do most GM cars (not equipped with alloys) Of the cars I have owned that came with hubcaps I remember that my Civics, Accords, CRXs, Corsicas, Berettas, Sunbirds, Cavaliers, Grand Ams, etc. all had hub caps held on by the lug nuts.
thestig8 ◊ 2010-02-17 03:28	May's first car of choice in the small car bit. Trades it for an iQ
dhill_cb7 ◊ 2023-09-07 15:35	Number plate VO09CBY VIN KL1SF48DJ9B372052 Engine code 049134KC3 Trim LS Brand CHEVROLET Name AVEO (T250/T255) [EUR] Vin KL1SF48DJ9B372052 Production 03.09.2008 EngineNo X1049134KC3 Engine (LMU) ENGINE GAS, 4 CYL, L4, 1.2L, MFI, DOHC, GMDAT Transmission (MFM) TRANSMISSION MAN 5 SPD, Y4M HD, 1ST 3.539, 5TH 0.781 Country UE EngineStyle B12D1 Year 2009 TrimCode 81I BodyStyle 48
AleX_DJ ◊ 2023-09-08 12:50	1.2

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