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stronghold ◊ 2009-02-09 13:27
Sunbar ◊ 2009-02-09 14:28	It should Bedford I guess but difficult to be sure. I cannot think of any other alternatives, unless its a normal van being used as an ambulance for the film? Most Ambulances had side windows around this time I thought? -- Last edit: 2009-02-09 14:30:48
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2009-02-09 14:58	Not possible to be sure, but the Morris Commercial 30 cwt is a possible alternative. Link to "images.google.co.uk"
Sunbar ◊ 2009-02-09 15:34	It looks to be rather smaller than either the Bedford or the Morris Commercial LC3 to me. I cannot say what it could be yet, only I'm thinking its probably a van and not an ambulance. The black window in the thumbnail looks odd to me (painted on a blank door perhaps?). The hub-cap on the front wheel does not look like the LC3 type (more like Bedford). -- Last edit: 2009-02-09 15:38:21
Sunbar ◊ 2009-02-13 13:17	An idea how the ambulance or van looks without the people hiding the rear. I think a rear wheel-arch is just visible but its actual appearance is not certain. To me it does not look like any British van I can think of. There also looks to be a running board between the wheel arches. These are possible on some American vans (but size looks too small) or other countries?
Sunbar ◊ 2019-09-06 12:22	In an effort to resolve this 'unknown' ambulance more than ten years after the above comments, its possible johnfromstaffs had it right with it being a Morris-Commercial based ambulance. The front wing, door glass and suggestion of a rear wing profile could be the same as a Morris-Commercial LC5 Ambulance. With the high contrast image I guess affecting the appearance along the side the (side glasses not visible and the form behind the front wing) I am now 60% confident its a 1953-1960 LC5 (or 1952 LC4) ambulance all other likely British ambulances being distinctly different.
Sunbar ◊ 2019-12-20 15:48	Rear view with distinctive window shape here - but ambulance body maker still unknown. Link to "www.flickr.com" Link to "www.flickr.com" It therefore appears to be an LC3 with the separate front wings without headlamps faired-in. -- Last edit: 2019-12-20 15:57:19
Sunbar ◊ 2019-12-20 20:07	From searches for the post-war Morris-Commercial LC ambulances here /vehicle.php?id=1331951 it appears Wadhams built these bodies on wheelbases of 11ft 4in (LC3 design) and both 11ft 4in (edit: now known to be NV chassis) and 10ft 1in (LC4/LC5 chassis). -- Last edit: 2019-12-20 20:32:09
Animatronixx ◊ 2019-12-20 20:12	Yes! Let me add a minor refinement: Back then they still traded as Wadham Bros.
Sunbar ◊ 2019-12-20 20:20	Thank you, AnimatronixX I'm happy to have your confirmation, I was getting out of my depth in searching for likely manufacturers.
Animatronixx ◊ 2019-12-20 20:26	My pleasure, Sunbar! I'm always a bit wary adding things to your contributions, because I value your high standards when researching coachbuilders.
Sunbar ◊ 2019-12-20 20:38	Please don't be wary at all. I'm always worried myself in case I draw a wrong conclusion as in many cases I'm relying on something on the web where someone may have made a wrong identification of a specific photograph themselves. Adverts and magazine articles are more reliable.
Animatronixx ◊ 2019-12-20 20:56	Yes - see what I mean? These are the standards I was referring to! I fully agree and also preferably trust advertisements, brochures (= the coachbuilder's truth) and obvious experts or automotive historians rather than photographers or 'spare time journalists' (freshly brought to you by a spare time journalist - it's a contradictory world we live in...)
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2019-12-20 21:42	AnimatronixX wrote freshly brought to you by a spare time journalist ..) Is that where the stringer bit came from?
Animatronixx ◊ 2019-12-20 22:28	Excellent! I didn't know the meaning of "stringer" and unquestioningly took it for a name, but now Wadham Stringer Coachbuilders will never be the same to me again. Thanks for that!
Ingo ◊ 2019-12-20 22:31	Sunbar wrote Please don't be wary at all. I'm always worried myself in case I draw a wrong conclusion as in many cases I'm relying on something on the web where someone may have made a wrong identification of a specific photograph themselves. Adverts and magazine articles are more reliable. Well, it depends, what kind of magazines - you only can trust specialist magazines, not the mainstream junk - because the experts are working there. It makes me aggressive (@jfs: yes,again ), when the reader has a bigger knowledge than the -professional!- writer.
Ingo ◊ 2019-12-20 22:34	AnimatronixX wrote ... (freshly brought to you by a spare time journalist - it's a contradictory world we live in...) Schreibst Du für Fachmagazine oder muß ich à la Ostzonennazidödel "Lügenpresse!" krähen
Animatronixx ◊ 2019-12-20 22:46	Ich habe für Bestattungsfachmagazine, diverse Bücher und Zeitschriften über Karosseriebauer bzw. Bestattungsfahrzeuge und auch mal für die Motoraver geschrieben sowie im Hintergrund auf Anfrage für die Oldtimer Markt und - einmalig - auch für die AutoBild recherchiert.
Ingo ◊ 2019-12-20 23:23	AnimatronixX wrote Ich habe für Bestattungsfachmagazine, diverse Bücher und Zeitschriften über Karosseriebauer bzw. Bestattungsfahrzeuge und auch mal für die Motoraver geschrieben sowie im Hintergrund auf Anfrage für die Oldtimer Markt und - einmalig - auch für die AutoBild recherchiert. Okay, also korrekte Presseerzeugnisse, die einen gewissen Anspruch erfüllen Ansonsten darfst du nix erwarten - wenn sich z.B. meine PARTEI-Genoss*Ixen aufregen, daß wieder Mist geschrieben wurde, dann empfehle ich ihnen, sich zu freuen, wenn Name, Ort und Datum richtig sind. Die Hauptsache ist, daß wir erwähnt werden, das restliche Geschreibsel ist egal. Ist es nicht erschütternd, was heute für Maßstäbe angelegt werden (müssen)? -- Last edit: 2019-12-20 23:26:12
Animatronixx ◊ 2019-12-20 23:43	Ingo, ich habe ganz bewußt nur die Frage beantwortet und bin auf den Rest nicht eingegangen. Ich bin (gesellschafts-) politisch sehr interessiert und m. E. auch recht gut informiert, habe durchaus sorgfältig gebildete, von Respekt und Aufgeschlossenheit geprägte Meinungen, aber pflege diese nicht online, im Schriftwechsel oder in persönlichen Zusammentreffen im Cabrio umherzufahren. Insofern nimm es mir bitte nicht übel, daß ich mich auf derlei Themen und Gespräche ganz sicher niemals einlassen werde.
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2019-12-20 23:57	Why I feel I can talk about Bentleys now and again.
Ingo ◊ 2019-12-21 00:19	@AnimatronixX: es ist nicht meine Intention, eine politische Debatte loszutreten - ich rege mich nur über den erbärmlichen Qualitätsstandard auf, insbesondere in sachlicher und orthographischer Hinsicht. Da hauen selbst einstmals angesehene Qualitätsblätter peinlichste Fehler raus (vorgestern erst sah ich bei Spiegel online eine "Reperatur"). Online ist merklich schlimmer als Print - wohl weil im Onlinebereich die prekär oder gar nicht bezahlten Jungschreiber sitzen. Was meine örtlichen Politaktivitäten angeht, so müssen wir uns auf die Zunge beißen, um nicht die einflußreiche Lokaljournalistin zu vergrätzen. Sie ist nett, engagiert und uns gewogen - aber sie verliert manchmal den Kampf gegen ihre Legasthenie... Allerdings sind auch Fachmagazine nicht vor fetten Schnitzern gefeit, wobei im Oldtimerbereich der Standard hoch ist, weil Kenner für Kenner schreiben - aber dennoch war kein Artikel über den K 70 100%ig fehlerfrei... -- Last edit: 2019-12-21 00:37:45
Ingo ◊ 2019-12-21 00:32	For the non-German speakers: it's a discussion about journalistic quality standards, and that they were getting lower in the last years, unfortunately sometimes also in specialist magazines as classic car magazines (altough it's still better there than elsewhere)
dsl ◊ 2019-12-21 02:08	johnfromstaffs wrote Why I feel I can talk about Bentleys now and again. A bald astronaut stole your engine?? Must have been fun filling out the insurance form.
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2019-12-21 09:07	When I posted this picture in the BDC forum I got questions about how well the string which was holding the front wheel on worked. When the chassis was cleaned it was revealed to be in remarkably good condition, the engine oil leaks having given it a protective coating. The astronaut returned the engine totally rebuilt, even down to the cylinders being bored out and relined back to standard. The engine is now back in the chassis, like an impatient thoroughbred horse fidgeting between unfamiliar shafts. The reason for posting the picture was the discussion about journalistic standards. I may not be a world expert, but can claim “been there, done that” especially when it comes to getting covered in fifty year old engine oil. -- Last edit: 2019-12-21 09:13:33
Ingo ◊ 2019-12-21 12:05	johnfromstaffs wrote ... The reason for posting the picture was the discussion about journalistic standards. I may not be a world expert, but can claim “been there, done that” especially when it comes to getting covered in fifty year old engine oil. You didn't get my point - I set different standards in journalism by non-professional writers and professional journalists, who earn money with writing. When I pay for any kind of journalistic product, I expect a higher standard. In that case it's not acceotable, that the reader knows more than the writer.
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2019-12-21 12:58	"You didn't get my point" The nuances may have escaped me, my German ain't that special. I do, frequently, find that I may know more on a certain item than the professional journalists, but surely that follows on from being a hobbyist in a very closed subject. Also, style and attitude of the journalist may colour one's appreciation of what they have written. i.e. Opinionated b-ggers who don't know what they're talking about really stick in my craw. If that is bounced back at me I shall expect written evidence! -- Last edit: 2019-12-21 13:30:16
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2019-12-21 14:04	Any baldist remarks are referred to my profile. I have posted a new image, including tonsorial art.
atom ◊ 2019-12-21 14:10	Wish we had such cool coveralls over at my GKN-site
Animatronixx ◊ 2019-12-21 14:21	@Ingo, alles klar, ich stimme dir hier ja auch mehrheitlich zu. Wollte hier nur mal die Gelegenheit nutzen, um klarzustellen, daß ich viele Dinge nicht aus Unhöflichkeit oder Oberflächlichkeit ignoriere, sondern eher aus meinem Selbstverständnis heraus, was ich der Öffentlichkeit grundsätzlich mitteilen möchte. Naja, und weil ich selbst bestrebt bin, möglichst nah am Thema dieser Website zu bleiben und daher meinen Off-Topic-Anteil am liebsten recht klein halte. Insofern: Alles relaxed.
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2019-12-21 16:12	atom wrote Wish we had such cool coveralls over at my GKN-site Pinched off the service engineers on Middle East duty.

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1948 Morris-Commercial LC3 Ambulance Wadham Bros.

1948 Morris-Commercial LC3 Ambulance in The Saint, TV Series, 1962-1969 Ep. 2.01

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