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1952 Daimler Ferret Scout Car MkI

1952 Daimler Ferret Scout Car MkI in Short Circuit, Movie, 1986 IMDB

Class: Others, Military armored vehicle — Model origin: UK — Made for: CDN

1952 Daimler Ferret Scout Car MkI

Position 00:55:03 [*][*][*] Vehicle used by a character or in a car chase

Owner of this vehicle: taco bell

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Kooshmeister US

2009-01-19 02:16

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Kooshmeister wrote Randomly I noticed the second Ferret (without the radar dish on it) has a larger front viewport, and although the actual viewport cover is missing you can see the hinges showing it opened folding down, not up. It's also somewhat lower to the ground than the other one.

Having a look at the different Ferrets listed here I believe this might make it an MkII.


Agree? Disagree? Other ideas about the differences besides different Marks? Hit me. :)

Murf32 CA

2009-02-22 05:36

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While I don't want to disagree, you're right about the viewport, it's a two-in-two system, overall the whole thing has been removed for ease of viewing, the Ferret on the left isn't sporting a radar while the one on the right is, but, as for height differences?, well, look at the Ferret on the left (the front fender) then the one on the right, you can follow an imaginary line that makes the two vehicles virtually the same height - even at this camera angle. And, I could see that there might be a slight height discrepancy what with the radar unit vehicle, but, I still think that they're the same.

Kooshmeister US

2009-02-22 06:56

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I've taken the radar dish/lack of radar dish into account and concluded it's definitely lower to the ground anyway (the one with the radar has higher ground clearance for some reason). As for the viewport you're right about that; I recently noticed that.

But seeing as how these are listed as being different model years ('52 and '54) I think they should be listed separately. That is until if and when someone can confirm this isn't a '52 Ferret. Granted there isn't anything saying it is, but I'm just saying is all.

The Wilsonator EN

2009-03-30 01:18

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i am sorry Gentlemen, but you are wrong

take another look

the entire hatch is missing from the Ferret on the left, but the hatch is still fitted to the Ferret on the right

there is a hatch inside a hatch, the middle part with the periscope folds up and is held in a frame which folds flat onto the front armour

Kooshmeister US

2009-03-30 01:27

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We've already established that:

Murf32 wrote While I don't want to disagree, you're right about the viewport, it's a two-in-two system, overall the whole thing has been removed for ease of viewing


Kooshmeister wrote As for the viewport you're right about that; I recently noticed that.



-- Last edit: 2009-03-30 01:30:08

LandyMan75 EN

2010-08-24 20:08

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They're both Mk1 Ferrets

taco bell US

2016-04-19 04:44

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They are both Canadian Mark ones. I own this ferret that was used in the movies.

taco bell US

2016-04-20 02:02

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This Ferret was one of three that Renaud Veluzat owned with Veluzat Army Navy Surplus. The UK Vehicle ID number would be 36 BA 43 and the UNEF id was 1215. Not only in a bunch of movies but serve in Egypt with the United Nations Emergency Force, they painted those white and then painted green to serve in Cyprus. This MK 1 has a lot of work to bring her back to life but will be driving again.
Semper Fi
Taco

starfire AU

2017-04-18 14:30

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It's difficult to tell the year of Ferrets, as many of the changes were subtle and you usually go by the Mark of the vehicle instead (Such as Mk 1 or Mk 2/3). These are early Mk 1 vehicles though, as can be determined by the square side hatches; the later ones are tapered towards the front. Other fittings on these vehicles (particularly the indicator clusters) show them to be Canadian. They are probably the same ones that are listed on this site as being in Knight Rider and the A Team, although it's hard to know for sure.

Seaforth72 CA

2020-04-29 21:15

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Both Ferrets shown in the photo from SHORT CIRCUIT are 1954 ex-Canadian Army examples.

SECURIIY 104 on the left is hull number 301.B.2.4 (= 301st hull made, B = Build 2 = month i.e. February and 4 = 1954) Canadian Army Registration number 54-82516. UNEF number not known. Unused British number was 35 BA 75 Last known owner Mr. Biondi in North Carolina, USA

SECURITY 105 on the right is hull number 372.B.5.4 (372nd hull Built May 1954) Assigned British number 36 BA 46 but that number was never used. Presently owned by "taco bell" who posted above. Georgia, USA It did serve in the Sinai Desert of Egypt from 1957 onwards with United Nations Emergency Force (the first UNEF). Sadly the UNEF number is not known.

The Ferret numbered UNEF1215 was the previous Ferret on the list of CFR numbers i.e. Hull # 369 (not confimred) 54-82585 assigned British number 36 BA 46 which also served in Cypru with UNFICYP.

The confusion arises as the vehicles were sent to to the Sinai Desert in their original green paint and Canadian Army markings, including the Canadian Army Registration number e.g. 54-82586. Then they were at some point painted white and assigned United Nations registration numbers as they wanted to show that they were neutral peacekeepers. For a little while, both CAR and UNEF numbers were displayed but only a few photos show this. Sadly as of 2020-04-29, although a list of Canadian Ferrets in the Sinai Desert was found, no lists cross referencing the CAR to UNEF numbers has been found. I have recorded those numbers where I can find photos showing both. As well, some vehicles appear to have been added or withdrawn over the few years that they were there.

Canadian Ferret 54-82585 UNEF1215 Hull # 369 (unused British number 36 BA 43) shown in the Sinai Desert before it was painted white. Both CAR and UNEF numbers are visible. [Image: me-751cfjiccdno1ferret54-82585unef1215016.jpg]
Canadian Ferret with United Nations number UNEF1598 (hull number and CAR number not known)Canadian Army colour photo ZK-1946-17[Image: 600zk-1946-17cfjiccdno1ferretunef1598020inegyptsinaidesertwithunef.jpg]

Canadian Ferrets patrolling in Cyprus in 1967. (Canadian Army colour photo PCN67-107) [Image: pcn67-107cfjiccdno1ferrets019incypruswithunficyp1024.jpg]
Just because they were peacekeepers does not mean that they were safe. One Ferret set of a land mine (younger soldiers now call these IEDs thought there was nothing "improvised" bout them). As well UN troops were shot at by various parties during their peacekeeping missions and some were killed.
The above information is correct to the best of my knowledge but subject to change. Owners of Ferrets have been generous in sharing information and I need to update my web pages accordingly.
Canadian Army had 124 Ferret Scout Cars. For more information please see my web pages starting with https://captainstevens.com/military/mv/ferret-scout-car/

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