1959 Daimler SP 250 Series A 'Dart'

1959 Daimler SP 250 in Ironside, TV Series, 1967-1975 Ep. 3.05

Class: Cars, Convertible — Model origin: — Made for: USA

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rjluna2 ◊ 2020-12-22 13:55	Smells British
s13a ◊ 2020-12-22 14:25	Early (Series A) Daimler SP 250 without rear bumper I suppose. Trunk (boot) lock below the trunk (boot), rather than on the trunk (boot) itself, perhaps - 1960? Or maybe not, I see no difference in these trunk locks on 1959 or 1960 models: https://www.coys.co.uk/cars/1959-daimler-dart-sp250 (1959 example for sale, year is according to the listing) https://www.classicdriver.com/en/car/daimler/dart-sp-250/1960/681807 (1960 example for sale, year is according to the listing) Although on ccc, they do show some differences: https://www.classiccarcatalogue.com/DAIMLER_1959.html https://www.classiccarcatalogue.com/DAIMLER_1960.html -- Last edit: 2020-12-22 14:38:54
dsl ◊ 2020-12-22 16:06	Never come across the different boot lock positions before. My guess is lock on boot lid was pre-production only (so only seen in 1959 drawing), but production had it on rear panel. XHP 438 - "the oldest surviving SP250, Prototype chassis 100002" has it on the panel (although there are hints the car was tweaked a few times during development and later PR/publicity use, so may not be 100% reliable indicator in its preserved state today). Agree Series A likely for rear over-riders only, but some B/C boyracer owners would remove bumpers to create similar effect, so it's a reasonable assumption rather than proof. Also chassis flex was a big problem with Series A cars, which led to the Series B strengthening exercise, and several As were returned to factory - including US batches - for conversion to B-spec, so it gets messy if we pursue too hard. I think early A our best bet here. MG 1100 Sports Sedan in front.

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rjluna2

◊ 2020-12-22 13:55

Smells British :think:

s13a

◊ 2020-12-22 14:25

Early (Series A) Daimler SP 250 without rear bumper I suppose. Trunk (boot) lock below the trunk (boot), rather than on the trunk (boot) itself, perhaps - 1960?

Or maybe not, I see no difference in these trunk locks on 1959 or 1960 models:
https://www.coys.co.uk/cars/1959-daimler-dart-sp250 (1959 example for sale, year is according to the listing)
https://www.classicdriver.com/en/car/daimler/dart-sp-250/1960/681807 (1960 example for sale, year is according to the listing)

Although on ccc, they do show some differences:
https://www.classiccarcatalogue.com/DAIMLER_1959.html
https://www.classiccarcatalogue.com/DAIMLER_1960.html

-- Last edit: 2020-12-22 14:38:54

dsl

◊ 2020-12-22 16:06

Never come across the different boot lock positions before. My guess is lock on boot lid was pre-production only (so only seen in 1959 drawing), but production had it on rear panel. XHP 438 - "the oldest surviving SP250, Prototype chassis 100002" has it on the panel (although there are hints the car was tweaked a few times during development and later PR/publicity use, so may not be 100% reliable indicator in its preserved state today). Agree Series A likely for rear over-riders only, but some B/C boyracer owners would remove bumpers to create similar effect, so it's a reasonable assumption rather than proof. Also chassis flex was a big problem with Series A cars, which led to the Series B strengthening exercise, and several As were returned to factory - including US batches - for conversion to B-spec, so it gets messy if we pursue too hard.

I think early A our best bet here. MG 1100 Sports Sedan in front.

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1959 Daimler SP 250 Series A 'Dart'

1959 Daimler SP 250 in Ironside, TV Series, 1967-1975 Ep. 3.05

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