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◊ 2005-12-02 23:55 |
-- Last edit: 2016-12-26 15:16:23 (afonso) |
◊ 2007-12-14 23:20 |
I think the earliest these were produced was 2001. |
◊ 2007-12-15 07:25 |
Wampa-one is correct. The PT debuted in the spring of 2000 as an early '01. Has the primered(unpainted) front bumper of the first 2 or 3 model years. |
◊ 2008-06-23 17:10 |
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◊ 2016-10-14 20:49 |
That's impossible, then it would have to be a 2000 as the 2001 MY would start in the summer. -- Last edit: 2016-10-14 20:49:50 |
◊ 2016-10-14 21:09 |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_year |
◊ 2016-10-14 21:40 |
not the first time Chrysler does that... snow storms in the middle of 1994's winter were accompagnied by Neon's publicities... -- Last edit: 2016-10-14 21:40:21 |
◊ 2016-10-14 21:42 |
Yes, that was at the end of the year, but here... |
◊ 2016-10-14 21:44 |
But here, it's perfectly normal for a 2001 model year to be sold in 2000. As Sandie had quoted above. |
◊ 2016-10-14 21:46 |
Yes, but like I said, only if after the company's summer vacation... |
◊ 2016-10-14 22:14 |
no.. i meant late january/early february in 1994, there was already 1995 Neon everywhere in magazines, tv ... even some real ones in the streets... |
◊ 2016-10-15 03:35 |
Which in real world scenario is total pants. If the 2017my continues unchanged into the 2017 calendar year, then we can have a fudged workround to keep chugging along. But if the 2017my is replaced by the 2018my so that no 2017my cars are sold within 2017 calendar year then the whole charade collapses into meaningless chaos. |
◊ 2016-10-15 04:45 |
Not my comment, that's quoted from Wikipedia so I shouldn't be attributed the quote. It's not logical but that's how they work. I don't think there are any cases of a car being actually introduced for sales on January 1st of the previous year it's just a legal possibility. There will be a few "next year's model" introduced some time in January but even in these cases the calendar year model will always still be available (due to accumulated stocks - the US works differently from Europe on this) into the calendar year and almost always be built into the new year. Some times both versions will be produced alongside one another. For example, we have the Neon as an example of an early introduction but the predecessor of that car the Sundance/Shadow was made until March 1994 so months after the Neon introduction. Early introductions are almost always for all new models/new generations and so by the next year they will have fallen into line with a late year changeover. Looking at the example here, I'd be fairly sure that the 2001 PT-Cruiser would have ran until September/October 2001 rather than the changeover still being early in the year. -- Last edit: 2016-10-15 04:50:14 |
◊ 2016-10-15 14:12 |
This has come up previously... In the USA the manufacturer's model year starting and end dates are specified by the manufacturer and the only requirement is it has to include January 1st of the actual calender year. Code of Federal Regulations 85.2302. Therefore a model year can theoretically be almost two years long (less one day) either side of January 1st of the actual calender date. Reasons for their specifying various start dates are for marketing or meeting specific regulations tied to model year introductions. "§85.2302 DEFINITION OF MODEL YEAR. Model year means the manufacturer's annual production period (as determined under §85.2304) which includes January 1 of such calendar year, provided, that if the manufacturer has no annual production period, the term “model year” shall mean the calendar year." § 85.2304 DEFINITION OF PRODUCTION PERIOD. ...The “annual production period” ... begins either: when any vehicle or engine within the engine family is first produced; or on January 2 of the calendar year preceding the year for which the model year is designated, whichever date is later. The annual production period ends either: When the last such vehicle or engine is produced; or on December 31 of the calendar year for which the model year is named, whichever date is sooner." -- Last edit: 2016-10-15 14:51:28 |