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1969 Fiat 130 [130A]

1969 Fiat 130 [130A] in Koty to dranie, Movie made for TV, 1978 IMDB

Class: Cars, Sedan — Model origin: IT

1969 Fiat 130 [130A]

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Weasel1984 PL

2007-09-06 18:24

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Finally I've caught one :love: - government car :/ (the interior in foreground is of 132p).

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Ingo DE

2007-09-06 23:40

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Oh, the 130 was also produced in Poland? I didn't know that. Was there an export, for example to the GDR?

Once I was wondering, when I saw a photo, made in the GDR, where a Fiat 130 with GDR-plate was following a West German bus. This Fiat 130 was definetley used by the East German "Stasi", the secret service - the bus has transported politcal prisoners to Western Germany. The GDR earned millions of D-Mark and Dollars by selling their political prisoners to Western Germany (the average price for one person was around 60 000 DM, people with academic grades were more expensive).

Weasel1984 PL

2007-09-07 01:10

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Well it wasn't completly produced here, but assembled in a small numbers from the imported parts - there weren't any differences between the car from Italy and the "Polish" one (it is still a big secret how they were delivered here from Italy, very probable that entirely finished - just imported ;) ).
I'm nearly sure that all of them were used by government VIPs. On the other hand there are still some in Poland which always have had a private owners, (even in a Coupe version). Hard to tell are they from 'FSO' or were they individually imported. I've found an info that one of them has been found in a garage of former 'Pekaes' truck driver, he bought it new in the 1970's (we don't know how and where?). The trucks drivers which going abroad, in this time earned a lot of money and for one course f.e. to the Middle East ;) they could buy a quite good car (I believe it was similar in GDR).
I think that the export didn't exist, so car which you've seen Ingo was probably from different source.
Here is another one from PL in a very nice condition:
Link to "legendarne.com"

Btw.
Ingo wrote ... The average price for one person was around 60 000 DM, people with academic grades were more expensive...

That sounds like a quotation from one of our anti-communist comedy from those times :D ... only a pity that it's a truth.


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chris40 UK

2007-09-07 09:17

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Weasel1984 wrote ... I've found an info that one of them has been found in a garage of former 'Pekaes' truck driver, he bought it new in the 1970's (we don't know how and where?). The trucks drivers which going abroad, in this time earned a lot of money and for one course f.e. to the Middle East ;) they could buy a quite good car (I believe it was similar in GDR).


Back-load, maybe? :D

Ingo DE

2007-09-07 21:29

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@weasel: I've never heard, that this was possible for GDR-truckers, too. The GDR was too strict about this.

But I was surprised, that in the Sovietunion this way of organizing cars was sometimes possible. As i've heard, it was much more restricted over there. Usually the Sovietunion was one of the countries, where the citizens had nearly no chance to get a foreign made car. Much longer, than in other Eastern Block-countries, it was forbidden to own Western money.
So is was really bewildered, when an Estonian friend told me the story of one VW K 70, he has wrecked for spare-parts. This car was running in Tallinn (at that time SU) since 1975! A Russian freightship-captain has bought it in Western Germany and privateley imported.

By the way: I'm still looking for my literature-collection for an "Intourist"-brochure from 1987 "Travelling with the own car across the Sovietunion". The car of the cover was a K 70 with russian plate, indeed!

Ingo DE

2007-09-07 22:04

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Weasel1984 wrote
That sounds like a quotation from one of our anti-communist comedy from those times :D ... only a pity that it's a truth.


O.k. we're drifting a bit to off-topic, but just due your sentence I remember a very very bad and sarcastic comedy from Hungary about the circumstances in Romania - it was made in the 80ies, still at Ceacescu-times! I've seen it only one time, but I still remember, how nasty the Hungarian jokes about Romania have been. Sorry, I don' remember the title.

Weasel1984 PL

2007-09-08 02:24

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chris40 wrote Back-load, maybe? :D

Yes there is also such possibility.

Ingo.
That’s true – hard to meet foreign cars (even from the eastern block) in old Russian movies.
I remember a picture from brochure about the USSR, published for the 1980 olympics games, there was a parking somewhere in Russia with some nearly identical Beetles.
About the Estonian K70. There was a documentary in TV about Russian marriage which lives in Riga. They said that in the USSR era there were lot of positive differences between live in such republics like Latvia or Estonia and other parts of SU, but what exactly they meant by that? I don’t remember - it wasn’t a subject of the film. ;) Maybe also a simpler access to foreign products from the west.

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Ingo DE

2007-09-08 23:04

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@Weasel: the access to Western products was not better than in the rest of the SU, my friend told me. In some things the Estonians (like all Baltics) had more problems. So there was no chance to get a high position in the Red Army. The Russians never had trusted the Baltic totally (still reminding the fights during and after the war).

One thing was better, my friend told me. They could watch Western TV from Finland. Estonian is simila to Finnish, so they could mostly understand it.

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