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1947 Bedford OB Beadle C-Series

1947 Bedford OB in Mining Review, Documentary, 1947-1983 IMDB Ep. 32.01

Class: Bus, Single-deck — Model origin: UK

1947 Bedford OB Beadle C-Series

Position 00:01:55 [*][*] Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene

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dsl SX

2019-03-09 01:26

[Image: 01-19hfm43b.jpg] [Image: 01-19hfm43c.jpg]

[Image: 01-19hfm43d.jpg]

Another photo of HFM 43 found here
[Image: 01-19hfm43z.jpg]

Footage may be 1955. HFM 43 was Chester, March 1947 to Jan 1948. BLotW lists as Beadle C Series "Bd OB 75440 , B28F , 11/1947 , Crosville S17". So a genuine original Beadle, or one of their mash-ups of something older??

-- Last edit: 2019-03-10 18:28:19

johnfromstaffs EN

2019-03-09 09:32

^ Neither.

Crosville bought 68 Bedford OBs from 1946 to 1953. They were all either Beadle bodied, (21 in number - HFM 28 to HFM 45 and KFM 437/8/9) or Duple bodied (the rest), this one is from towards the end of the first batch of Bedford chassis bodied by Beadle, by the appearance specified for bus work rather than coaching.

What you may be thinking of is a Beadle chassisless bus, in basis, a self supporting body upon or underneath of which were attached various mechanical units from a selection of manufacturers, either newly bought or recycled from older vehicles. These were full fronted, with the engine inside the vehicle beside the driver. The name Beadle preceded the name of the mechanical unit manufacturer in bus enthusiast useage, I don’t know what went in the log book, hence “Bedford Beadle” as above or “Beadle Bedford” when Bedford units were hung on the Beadle bodywork.

This is a Bedford OB/Beadle.

-- Last edit: 2019-03-09 10:05:22

johnfromstaffs EN

2019-03-09 09:35

This is a Beadle Bedford.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/7240226@N02/33171835420

johnfromstaffs EN

2019-03-09 10:37

How we should describe a Beadle chassisless bus with the steering and suspension from a Bedford OB, back axle and gearbox from a Leyland Cub, and a Gardner 4LK providing the power, or lack of it, beggars belief.

Sunbar UK

2019-03-09 11:30

Have we not seen them before, listed as these Beadle Bedford buses?

/vehicle_719692-Beadle-Bedford-1947.html

http://www.sct61.org.uk/en165

and this /vehicle_570865-Beadle-Bedford-1947.html

Sunbar wrote [Image: beadleintegral.jpg] [Image: beadleconstruction.jpg]

Initial production of the Beadle Commer, Leyland and Bedford integral chassis buses were produced late 1946 through early 1947.

"Commer components, including a Commer petroL engine, were installed in the first example, which, incidentally, has a body constructed of steel, the weight complete being 4 tons 17 cwt. The second machine has Leyland Cub components, with a Gardner 4LK engine, and the third vehicle is powered and driven by Bedford OWB parts. These machines are built of light alloy..."

johnfromstaffs EN

2019-03-09 13:14

An article by Michael Dryhurst in Classic Bus of April/May 2014 entitled “Bedford-Beadle and Beadle-Bedford” has a picture of Eastern National Fleet No 187, described as a 1947 Bedford OB with a Perkins P6 engine and Beadle B30F (bus, 30 seats, front entrance) body. Hants and Dorset also had seven, including JEL 580. Aside from minor details of sidelights and destination indicators the buses are an exact match for the subject in discussion.

Further pictures show two Beadle-Bedfords belonging to Eastern Counties, of similar design to the bus shown in my link above. Eastern Counties also had some vaguely similar, but half cab buses built by ECW to the same system but no Beadle involvement.

Further care in identification is needed, however, because Beadle built bodies looking somewhat similar to the chassisless vehicles, but which were normal coachwork on conventional chassis.

-- Last edit: 2019-03-09 13:31:08

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