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Bombardier DD KD-class

Bombardier DD in The Commitments, Movie, 1991

Class: Bus, Double-deck — Model origin: — Built in: — Made for: IRL

Bombardier DD KD-class

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Comments about this vehicle

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sixcyl ◊ 2007-08-07 17:22
Gag Halfrunt ◊ 2007-08-07 17:35	The bus in tbe main picture is a Bombardier KD: http://www.preservedirishtransport.com/bombardier_KD_gallery.htm The bus in the thumbnail is something else, because its windows have rounded corners. The Bombardiers had bonded glazing with right-angled corners. Also, the Bombardier KD has two windows between the front and centre doors, but the bus in the thumbnail has only one. Since this is Dublin, the bus in the thumbnail might well be a Leyland Atlantean AN68/Van Hool McArdle like this one: /vehicle_120218-Leyland-Atlantean-AN68-1974.html -- Last edit: 2007-08-07 17:42:27
2491tj ◊ 2007-08-07 17:54	probably is Leyland Atlantean
SteveA ◊ 2007-08-08 22:21	We don't get to see the bus in the thumbnail from the outside, but it's dual door, which means it would have to be a Leyland Atlantean AN68 with Van Hool-McArdle body
Gag Halfrunt ◊ 2007-08-08 22:50	So the thumbnail should be moved to an entry of its own and the main picture renamed as Bombardier KD.
antp ◊ 2007-08-08 23:54	The thumbnail is for the bus seen from inside, or for the tiny green part seen from its window? (as everything is possible with Sixcyl )
Gag Halfrunt ◊ 2007-08-08 23:59	The Atlantean is the interior shot (the thumbnail, on Imageshack). The Bombardier is the one in the main picture (/images/121/306.jpg) -- the back of the bus seen from inside the depot. -- Last edit: 2007-08-09 00:06:37
antp ◊ 2007-08-09 00:07	OK so I let Sixcyl create the page for the Atlantean, as I suppose that it must have a role (at least 2 stars?) What country origin should be chosen for that bus model? Canada, Ireland, ... ? -- Last edit: 2007-08-09 00:08:36
Gag Halfrunt ◊ 2007-08-09 00:10	I'd say Ireland for the Bombardier because it was made in Ireland and built exclusively for CIE (the Irish government transport company).
firebird86 ◊ 2007-08-09 06:24	I thought Bombardier was a Canadian Co?
Gag Halfrunt ◊ 2007-08-09 11:28	Bombardier is a Canadian company, but it built these buses in Ireland to a design by a West German consultancy. Quote In 1977, CIE contacted FFG in Hamburg with the request to design a standard bus family. FFG, originally a division of the Hamburg public transport company, had, among others, designed the German standard bus. FFG built several prototypes: a 53 seat dual purpose bus in 1978 (V1), a 45 seat double decker in 1981 (KD1), a 35 seat dual-door city bus in 1981 (KC1), a minibus in 1981, and two 47 seat school buses in 1983 and 1984 (KS1 and KS2). With the exception of the minibus, all these models would be built in Ireland between 1981 and 1986. CIE looked for a partner to build these buses in Ireland, which was found in AMG (American Motors General) in the US. A factory in Shannon was leased, but AMG pulled out of the deal before starting production. Finally, an agreement was reached with Bombardier in Canada and the General Automotive Company (GAC). Bombardier was expanding rapidly and saw the Irish investment as an opportunity to get a foothold in Europe. Bombardier (Ireland) was created and production finally started in Shannon in 1981. However, problems soon arose as CIE did not need (or had the funds to buy) the 250 buses per year that the factory needed to produce to be profitable. Bombardier already withdrew in 1983, leaving GAC as the only partner. An attempt was made to find an export market and a prototype rural bus was delivered to United in the UK in 1985, but no orders materialized. GAC withdrew the same year, and the plant was closed in 1986, after CIE finished the last buses itself. http://busexplorer.com/WorldBus/BombardierGAC-Text.html
firebird86 ◊ 2007-08-09 17:05	I learned something new today, Thank you Gag,
s5 ◊ 2008-05-12 04:10	The Bus in the thumbnail photo (interior shot) is Leyland RH class olympian which began operation in Dublin in 1990

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