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1983 GAC Ireland CB KC-class

1983 GAC Ireland CB in The Commitments, Movie, 1991 IMDB

Class: Bus, Single-deck — Model origin: DE — Built in: IE — Made for: IRL

1983 GAC Ireland CB KC-class

[*][*] Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene

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sixcyl FR

2007-08-07 17:16

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Gag Halfrunt UK

2007-08-07 17:40

GAC KC class:
http://www.preservedirishtransport.com/KC_gallery.htm

or Bombardier KE class:
http://www.preservedirishtransport.com/bombardier_KE.htm

or Bombardier KR class:
http://www.freewebs.com/eirebus2006/kr.htm

Quote In 1977, CIE contacted FFG in Hamburg with the request to design a standard bus family. FFG, originally a division of the Hamburg public transport company, had, among others, designed the German standard bus. FFG built several prototypes: a 53 seat dual purpose bus in 1978 (V1), a 45 seat double decker in 1981 (KD1), a 35 seat dual-door city bus in 1981 (KC1), a minibus in 1981, and two 47 seat school buses in 1983 and 1984 (KS1 and KS2). With the exception of the minibus, all these models would be built in Ireland between 1981 and 1986.

CIE looked for a partner to build these buses in Ireland, which was found in AMG (American Motors General) in the US. A factory in Shannon was leased, but AMG pulled out of the deal before starting production. Finally, an agreement was reached with Bombardier in Canada and the General Automotive Company (GAC). Bombardier was expanding rapidly and saw the Irish investment as an opportunity to get a foothold in Europe. Bombardier (Ireland) was created and production finally started in Shannon in 1981. However, problems soon arose as CIE did not need (or had the funds to buy) the 250 buses per year that the factory needed to produce to be profitable. Bombardier already withdrew in 1983, leaving GAC as the only partner. An attempt was made to find an export market and a prototype rural bus was delivered to United in the UK in 1985, but no orders materialized. GAC withdrew the same year, and the plant was closed in 1986, after CIE finished the last buses itself.

http://busexplorer.com/WorldBus/BombardierGAC-Text.html

See also http://www.skylineaviation.co.uk/buses/Bombardier.html

-- Last edit: 2007-08-07 17:51:54

Kazimann IE

2007-08-07 22:07

It's on www.cartell.ie:

Make BOMBARDIER / GAC Model OTHER
Colour RED CC Not Available

It was probably later in it's life was converted to a Bus Eireann bus, hence why it came up as red on the site.

SteveA EN

2007-08-08 22:11

It's a KC class - specifically KC21 (ZSI21)

antp BE

2007-08-08 22:30

What is the correct make name then?
We had one listed as "Bombardier Ireland", I suppose it is related (and maybe that one has a wrong name) : /vehicle_29339-Bombardier-Ireland-894.html

antp BE

2007-08-09 14:12

... so what about that other one? Should it be renamed to just "Bombardier"?

Kazimann IE

2008-09-17 00:03

Yes, the make is 'Bombardier'.

kudos SX

2014-09-03 01:08

Filmed at Phibsboro depot IIRC, this is one of 201 buses delivered new to Córas Iompair Éireann between mid-1983 and 1986, all fitted with a Cummins L10-185 engine coupled to a Voith D851 gearbox. This should actually be listed as a GAC as only two KC-class buses (prototype KC1 and KC2) were badged as Bombardiers - GAC had taken full control of the operation and the Shannon plant by the time this bus was under assembly.

-- Last edit: 2014-09-03 18:55:10

Exiv96 BE

2024-02-25 03:45

SteveA wrote It's a KC class - specifically KC21 (ZSI21)


New in 1983, and a search on BusListsontheWeb shows that the actual model name is CB (for City Bus). I've kept "KC-class" as additional info.

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