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Jale ◊ 2015-08-27 16:54
supcoach ◊ 2015-08-27 17:43	Chevrolet/GMC??
CougarTim ◊ 2015-08-27 18:53	I don't know, why don't you find out?
supcoach ◊ 2015-08-27 20:01	@CougarTim..I like that....Gut feeling...that and the windshield shape looks like an early 1950's GM shape....
CougarTim ◊ 2015-08-27 20:33	That thick band molded into the body below the windows would seem to preclude most postwar products. However, the shape of the door window looks very modern. Hmm... Other distinguishing characteristics: split windshield, bottom-mounted windshield wipers -- Last edit: 2015-08-27 20:58:42
CougarTim ◊ 2015-08-27 21:08	Alright, I may owe you an apology. It appears you have been correct all along. The firewall stamping definitely matches GM Advance-Design (1950 Chevrolet pictured):
supcoach ◊ 2015-08-28 00:31	When I first viewed the truck my eye was drawn to the somewhat still undented fender, which to me looked like a GM Advance-Design....
eLMeR ◊ 2015-08-28 03:39	It can't be a "GM Advance-Design" as this name was only used by Chevrolet, while GMC similar truck line was called New Design (even if the literature about it is really scarce). Apparently without the 1949+ fuel fliler pipe (on the cab, behind the passenger door handle): a 1947-48 model. The fender is clearly the one of a medium-duty model (if GMC) / heavy-duty one (if Chevrolet). No detail here to say a GMC over a Chevrolet, so IMCDb habits apparently give it the latter as default make. By the way, as medium-/heavy-duty model, it can't have a pickup class. A Trucks, Simple truck would certainly be more accurate, I think (The bed side in foreground is not part of it: it doesn't belong to any 1947-55 GM model, as theses ones didn't use horizontal reinforcements. It looks more like the bed side of a later Dodge pickup) ⇒ 1947 Chevrolet Advance-Design (with Class: Trucks, Simple truck) @ supcoach: stop talking about "gut feeling", please. You do exactly what everybody does when trying to recognize visually something, which is shape recognition. It's nothing but a logical process. Except for the bumper detail here, you usually don't try to find the words to tell what you recognize exactly (a window shape, a hinge location or anything else), so you're self-convinced about a kind of "natural gift". Trying from time to time to find some sources to support your "gut feeling" would most probably help you to be aware that it has nothing to do with "feeling". -- Last edit: 2015-08-28 03:49:49
supcoach ◊ 2015-08-28 04:29	@ eLMeR You overlooked that I also said the windshield and fender shapes resembled, to me, a GM product...I also put question marks as I am not sure....As an educator you sometimes have to place trust.... There are also cases where for instance a Ford bed is mated to a Chevrolet pickup cab (on this website in fact)...so it could be a Dodge bed as you stated possibly mated to a GM cab...., -- Last edit: 2015-08-28 04:34:38
DidierF ◊ 2015-08-28 04:31	(Ce Chevy heavy-duty, ça signifie qu'il peut transporter combien de tonnes ?)
CougarTim ◊ 2015-08-28 05:20	I don't know if I should say anything.
supcoach ◊ 2015-08-28 05:24	Please do
DidierF ◊ 2015-08-28 05:31	(Yep: how much weight these Chevy heavy duty/GMC medium duty can carry? I some times too have problem to class 'pick-up' or 'simple truck'.) -- Last edit: 2015-08-28 05:32:06
supcoach ◊ 2015-08-28 06:27	According to the reference book I looked at medium duty (1947 model year) was from 7500 to 16000 pounds....
DidierF ◊ 2015-08-28 07:09	Ah, quand même ! 3,5T à 8T ! Thanks, supcoach.
eLMeR ◊ 2015-08-28 18:55	Which medium-duty models are you talking about, supcoach? I don't understand from where your figures come out. Do you mean payload as asked by DiderF, or just GVW? Chevrolet used the medium-duty for both the "¾-ton" 3600 and "1-ton" 3800 models (5,800 lbs to 8,800 lbs / 2.6 t to 4 t max. GVW, see the 1947 and 1954 links below) while GMC was refering to the "1½-ton" 300 and "2-ton" 350. Heavy-duty models from the Chevrolet truck line were therefore the "1½-ton" 4x00 to "2-ton" 6x00 while it meant "2½-ton" 400 models an above for GMC. @ DidierF: The following figures are the max. GVW (= PTAC) for trucks using this cab and bumper: • 1947 Chevrolet 4100 to 6400 = 13,000 lbs (5.90 t) to 16,000 lbs (7.26 t) (14,000 lbs / 6.35 t to 16,000 lbs in 1954); • GMC documents give 11,000 to 26,000 lbs (4.99 t to 11.80 t) for 1950 (inline literature is scarce for that generation of truck). • Among GMC heavy-duty models, the 400 to 470 models used this cab too: up to 20,000 lbs (9 t). Small heavy trucks And for the heavy GMC models, you have of course the 5x0 to 9x0 "HC-Series" models and their 63,000 lbs (28.6 t) max. GVW / 100,000 lbs (45 t) GCW (= PTRA), but the cab is "slightly" different (1953 GMC heavy-duty trucks brochure cover) -- Last edit: 2015-08-28 19:06:48
DidierF ◊ 2015-08-28 19:15	Well, supcoach both read and answered me correctly, then.
eLMeR ◊ 2015-08-28 21:30	I don't think so. As the documents usually don't give the payload nor the curb weight (= Poids à vide), I just wonder how he managed to find these figures which don't seem to match any of the models specs. _____ Edit: My mistake: I found one mention about payload in the 1954 Chevrolet brochure, and it's one that may help you to see the upper limit of the pickups and small trucks from these truck lines: the "1-ton" 3800, i.e. the biggest pickup, has a payload capacity of 2,900 lbs / 1.31 t. With a maximum GVW of 7,000 lbs / 3.17 t, that means a curb weight of 4,100 lbs / 1.86 t. The corresponding 3800 stake has a max. GVW of 8,800 lbs (3.99 t), which gives it roughly a payload capacity of 4,700 lbs / 2.13 t. Maybe a little less as a platform with stake racks is certainly a bit heavier than a bed and its sides. -- Last edit: 2015-08-28 22:26:46
supcoach ◊ 2015-08-28 23:14	My information came "Encyclopedia of Chevrolet Trucks" a Crestline book p55. To paraphrase: The Loadmaster group of 1.5 and 2 ton models had a GVW of 7500 to 16000 pounds.. Models referenced for this GVW were 4100, 4400, 6100S, 6400S and 6100, 6400, 4502, 6702.. Like I said Elmer I was referring to the 1947 model year only If you want I can scan it and send it
eLMeR ◊ 2015-08-29 02:44	No need, the info comes clearly from the already linked 1947 specs sheet. For the record, 4502 and 6702 models were school bus chassis, not trucks, and the 7500 lbs GVW for the 1947 4100 is given only once without being reused in the general data sheet (and don't appear in the 1948 brochure). It's also important to note that all 1947 Loadmaster trucks weren't medium-duty models: only the 4000-Series was called "medium-duty" for this model year, but became part of the heavy-duty models in 1948. We should not forget that the 1947 model year lasted just a few weeks (the truck line was unveiled in June 1947), and that there were some important changes between 1947 and 1948 models. So we should be careful when using it as single reference... -- Last edit: 2015-08-29 02:45:37
supcoach ◊ 2015-08-29 03:31	I only used 1947 because that is the year of the vehicle above...And as I said I condensed what the book said

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