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1994 SAAB 900 2.5 SE Gen.2

1994 SAAB 900 in Murphy's Law, TV Series, 2003-2007 IMDB Ep. 1.3

Class: Cars, Hatchback — Model origin: SE

1994 SAAB 900 2.5 SE Gen.2

[*][*] Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene

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eLMeR MH

2014-03-25 23:55

The Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency says about the "L358 FAN" plate:
Date of First Registration: 14 10 1993
Year of Manufacture: 1993
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 2498cc
Vehicle Colour: GREEN

It is said almost everywhere that the Saab 900 NG / GM900 was introduced in 1994.
But according to the The Saab Museum:
"Model Years 1994 to 1997
The new Saab 900 made its debut in front of the press and 35,000 residents of Trollhättan, in the town’s main square, on 21 July 1993."

The model of the tv series is thus an early pre-production car, like this one?

dsl SX

2014-03-26 00:24

Oct 93 UK introduction.

atom SE

2014-03-26 00:27

I was at the square that day :) Oct 93 does as always mean 1994 modelyear.

eLMeR MH

2014-03-27 21:56

atom wrote Oct 93 does as always mean 1994 modelyear.

Here in France, model year starts on July 1st. So October 93 is also a 1994 model year for us :)
Dsl, how does it start, in UK?

-- Last edit: 2014-03-27 21:58:48

dsl SX

2014-03-27 22:37

Now there's a question. It used to be September/October in the lead-up to the mid-October UK Motor Show, sometimes earlier if launches were aimed at Frankfurt Show (Sept) or Paris (start October). July/August were dead periods for the Great British Holiday shutdown when workers went away en masse for their annual break, which provided an opportunity for factory lines to be updated ready for any new launch while the place was empty. Since UK motor shows stopped, it has become more flexible - partly also because the UK industry is now foreign owned and its calendar is decided elsewhere without any UK tradition.

But this sort of question is a perennial problem with imcdb because there is always a tension between calendar years and model years (reference many many discussions). With this newly launched Saab, it is easily sorted, but the my concept relies on something new/changed to identify before/after. Many UK models only changed on longer cycles - maybe every 2-4 years including facelifts - so there is no basis for intermediate mys between event A and event B, only calendar indications (registration info etc).

So for UK, mys are not fixed concepts with specific boundaries which can be universally applied. There are many many examples where a quantifiable trend can be determined for successful imcdb use, but an equally significant black hole where there is no my to play with.

eLMeR MH

2014-03-28 02:17

Well, it seems after some researches that French car makers use the civil year since 2001 "to harmonize with the other European countries". (1)
But I don't find a clue of it in "serious" and/or recent webpages, and I do not remember having ever heard of it at that time. I'll do some research to learn more about it...
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(1): When I read what you says about UK, dsl, and what you seem to say about Sweden (i.e. MY change in summer?), atom, that may more "de-harmonize" things ;)

eLMeR MH

2014-03-28 03:52

Ok. Thanks to an old article(fr; 2001) of L'Argus (a magazine specialized in secondhand cars, founded in 1927), I found the "Décret n° 2000-576 du 28 juin 2000 modifiant le décret n° 78-993 du 4 octobre 1978 pris pour l'application de la loi du 1er août 1905 sur les fraudes et falsifications en matière de produits ou de services en ce qui concerne les véhicules automobiles". You can breath again, the title of this decree is over :D
In a few words, this decree modified another one of 1978, which was itself modifying a 1905 law about frauds and forgery in car selling. A 1905 law about car selling still active... Who said "conservative"? ;)

This decree made the word (and the practice of) model year disappear in France, just by saying, about that particular point:
"Art. 6. - A l'article 7 du même décret, les mots : « le millésime de l'année modèle » sont supprimés." // "The words 'model year' are deleted from the 1978 decree".
Nothing more, nothing less. And there is no sign of any change for that text since.

In practice, that means that cars sold in France:
- before July 2000 stay with the old model year system (from July 1 to June 30);
- between July 1, 2000 and December 31, 2000 are 2001 "new non model year" (transitional period);
- from January 1, 2001 to December 31, 2000 are "2001 cars" too.
And so on, from January 1 to December 31 of each year.

So we can proudly say that we had a "year and a half model year" in 2001 in France. You know how much we are attached to our French cultural exceptions :lol:

-- Last edit: 2014-03-28 04:04:42

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