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Fiat 525

Fiat 525 in I Vitelloni, Movie, 1953 IMDB

Class: Cars, Limousine — Model origin: IT

Fiat 525

[*][*][*] Vehicle used by a character or in a car chase

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sixcyl FR

2005-10-21 07:35

Je pense qu' il s' agit d' une Fiat 525, mais sous reserves
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moment rigolo, Alberto un des "Vitelloni" , ces jeunes désoeuvrés sans le sou, fait un bras d' honneurs aux ouvriers qui travaillent sur la route (voir la photo du rouleau compresseur), mais malheureusement quelques vingtaines de mètre plus loin, l' antique Fiat tombe en carafe...malaise!
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-- Last edit: 2006-01-01 16:57:56

pilou BE

2005-11-05 16:37

I am really puzzled by this one .I do not think it is a Fiat 525 .Looks more like a Lancia Artena third series long wheelbase ( passo lungo) six seater of ca 1936 , but I am not 100 % sure. The coachwork is very interesting with a landaulet rear,rather large and high angular windows and four " suicide " doors .The car has knock off wire wheels ,sidemounted spares and a roof lugage rack. Coachwork could be Farina .Artenas had a small 17 ° angle V4 of 1924 cm3 developing 54 horsepower.One can also not exclude that it is an Asrura with the 2.6 litre 73 horsepower V8.Here again we will need the help of some senior Italian papparazzis to find out the truth !

sixcyl FR

2005-11-05 17:58

Thank's for this analysis, I've never been sure at 100% that it could be a FIAT 525, global line of the car making thinking about it, only...that's why I said " sous réserves"...Are they Italian pre-war car spécialists in here?..

DidierF FR

2013-08-20 16:25

It seems the question (Fiat or Lancia?) is still pending.

Furillo SE

2019-01-19 19:58

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The car seems to lose its hood ornament and third headlight. The rear license plate also changes. Notice the emblem on the rear door.

-- Last edit: 2019-01-20 14:47:23

Gilbert CH

2019-07-04 22:45

Whatever the make is, the car is certainly a HOTEL TAXI. Why? Because of these three features, mentioned by pilou resp. Furillo: long wheelbase/six seater, roof luggage rack, emblem on the rear door. The body may have been designed and manufactured by one of the countless specialized Italian car designer firms.

-- Last edit: 2019-07-11 20:39:34

LASEROLOGUE FR

2023-01-29 11:10

Most probably a Lancia , but a Dilambda , not an Astura

As i've just seen the film (now fully restored) in a Paris cinema , I noticed two significant details : the chromed headlights are very specific (triangular shape when seen from front, reminiscent of the Lancia badge, a Gimmick by Giuseppe "Pinin" Farina) and the top of the radiator grille which is not flat like on the Fiat 525 but slightly angled with a sort of curved "roofline".

In period luxury cars which were delivered as a rolling chassis to a fashionable coachwork firm chosen by the rich customer, the radiator grille was the makers / model signature (Bugatti had the Horseshoe grille, RR the Parthenon greek temple grille, Delaunay Belleville grille was circular and early Renaults had no grille at all as the radiator was behind the engine and it's coffin like bonnet...etc)and the rest of the bodywork depended on the coachbuilders style.

The radiator grille on the Vitellloni's car is clearly from a Lancia, but not an Artena/Astura, it is from a Dilambda, a slightly earlier luxury Lancia with a limited production run.
A Dilambda (in 4 side windows saloon body, not Landaulet - Limousine with canvas roof at the rear and 6 sidewindows) was reviewed in the October 2021 issue of Gazoline, a french vintage cars magazine.

The long wheelbase Dilambda was a big beast indeed, wheighing nearly 3 tonnes (6000 pounds) and using a gas-guzzling 4 litre V8 which must have carved a big hole in the chronically broke young Vitelloni's pockets living in impoverished post war Italy.

As they board the car to go searching for Sandra, Fausto's wife who has fled her home for good reasons (Fausto is a compulsive womaniser and shamelessly cuckolds her, even during their honeymoon), they worry about the Benzina. Anyone in 1953 Italy would have known how fuel-thirsty this particular car was, in fact it was almost killed by the 1929 Stockmarket crash and ensuing economic crisis.

By 1953 a Dilambda produced between 1928 and 1936 would have been very worn out and old, a dirt cheap second hand banger. This one may be a Hotel Taxi except that the plonked-on radiator mascot (a twin tail chromed aircraft model) would be a bit out of place. The sign on the rear door is a Ducal crown (many aristocrats had their coat-of-arms painted on their horsecarriages and automobiles), so maybe the Vitelloni bought this glorified wreck from some local aristocrat.

In the famous scene where harebrained joker Alberto Sordi pokes fun at the hard-fisted road workers from the open canvas top, even making them the "finger", italian style, we have a good view of the radiator grille, as the radiator clearly is boiling and pouring steam , a hint of what is about to happen when the stately-but-decrepit car breaks down some hundred yards after the roadworks.

As they run for safety one of them tries to calm the furious workers by saying he is a "socialist" only to recieve a few well-aimed kicks in the butt...Maybe this appeals to today viewers who may feel cheated by today pro buisness socialists like Matteo Renzi, François Hollande , Tony Blair , Gerahrd Schröder ...and some others.

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