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Asphalte, Movie, 1981 IMDB

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Also known as:

  • Asphalt
  • Asfalt (Netherlands)
  • Asfalto (Portugal)

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coopey ES

2012-09-05 14:54

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carobserver MX

2012-09-05 17:33

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release date make this movie filmed in 1980........

antp BE

2012-09-05 17:37

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or else they made it really fast, but what is your point? :D

carobserver MX

2012-09-05 17:46

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The year should be 1980 instead of 1981...........

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Andre Malraux RO

2012-09-05 17:49

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On the site, the year is always the releasing one, because there are movies made in 19... and realeased in the same year, so we cannot know. ;)

antp BE

2012-09-05 17:55

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For movies we use first release year (like IMDB does).
Like for vehicles we use model year rather than production year.

Weasel1984 PL

2012-09-05 17:58

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IMDb gives sometimes (usually?) strange years.
I think the most imprtant for us should be the year visible in the credits - it is the direct source (as it is old French film, it could be visible at the title screen).

G-MANN UK

2012-09-05 18:08

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When adding a film, it's just easier to use the year on IMDB rather than look up the filming dates or go to the end of the credits. You can't always use the year a film was shot because there's always editing and post-production (so it's not finished until that's all done) and sometimes films get delayed for a few years, eg. this one: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1327601/ (due to be released this year, starring Brittany Murphy who died in 2009)

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Weasel1984 PL

2012-09-05 18:18

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Is it really so hard task to check end of the credits? ;) Anyway, I do not try to force anyone to do this, do like you want. For sure sometimes it is not possible to find the year (or to read it), then the IMDb date is an obvious choice. But if someone wants to add movies according to this, what is in credits, I think he has right to do it. It is not any mistake. Do not see any reason to follow so strictly the IMDb info - when there is the better source - the movie itself. Personally I always trust more to the filmmakers than to the IMDb info.

Filming year - year when pics have been taken is a different story.

antp BE

2012-09-05 18:28

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The "year" field here on the site is not "filming year", it is "movie year". Usually the convention is to use the first release year. So we use that convention here too. I do not see why we should use filming year rather than release year: if the latter one is more common it is better to use the same reference as others do! (and the filming year can still be mentioned in the comments if it is different from the release year).
That's like for the cars: it is easier to use the same references as what everybody uses.

Weasel1984 PL

2012-09-05 18:37

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Let's say there are 3 "years":
1) time of filming - important from our POV, nice to know it, but we should not use it of course, as it is not any official date.
2) year when prodcution was finished - the one we usually see in the credits
3) date when film went to cinema(s)

"2" is IMO the most important - this is the one I defended.

G-MANN UK

2012-09-05 18:43

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I say we just use the year IMDB uses and if you want to know 1, 2 & 3, go and look it up there.

Weasel1984 wrote Is it really so hard task to check end of the credits?


It would just be one more thing to have to do when it can already be quite time-consuming to make all the captures and add them to the site :p

Weasel1984 wrote IMDb gives sometimes (usually?) strange years.


When? What films can you think of?

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Weasel1984 PL

2012-09-05 18:50

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IMDb uses the 3rd date. :p In case of the US films it is usually correct (means 3=2). In case of European (from non-English speaking countries) it many times is not.

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somename US

2012-09-05 20:04

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All movies have a copyright date; it's usually printed on the box or the disc if you're too lazy to sit through the credits. And we really can't use the filming date as some movies actually take years to film. For example, I think parts of Apocalypse Now were actually filmed three years apart.

carobserver MX

2012-09-05 23:52

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so, i will left 1981? anyways doesnt appear any 1981 model year car :/

jettalover US

2012-09-06 01:43

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I agree with somename. Some movies sit on the shelf for a few years because of underwhelming pre-release buzz. Eventually they are released with little enthusiasm by their distributors. The recent Eddie Murphy film A Thousand Words is an example of this. So definetly go by when the movie hits theaters.

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Weasel1984 PL

2012-09-06 13:20

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jettalover wrote I agree with somename...
... So definetly go by when the movie hits theaters.

In fact Somename mentioned the "copyright date" - the point is, it is not always the same what date when movie went to the theaters or TV (which IMDb uses in case of many films). The film can be finished and ready for the legal distribution in the year A, but then for some reasons it goes to the theaters in the year B or C and sometimes even Z. Does it mean we have to list it under the B, C, Z years? What for? No idea why IMDb is doing this. I completly do not see any similarities to the car's "model years" system. To me, they simply don't check this properly in case of the foreign films. They make mistakes too - does it mean we have to do the same mistakes?

It is a bit OT of course, I do not refer to the French film we have here (no idea if IMDb is correct in this case or not).

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antp BE

2012-09-06 22:37

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Most of the movie sites seem to list movies with release year. That's just so easier to use the same convention as other movie sites... I do not understand why you cant to change.
When you seek a movie, you have a year mentioned on IMDB or another site; if we use a different year here, it is confusing for the user.
IMDB usually uses the first release year, not especially the theatrical one. Often it is shown in festivals, avant-premiŤres, etc. So their date is usually close to the end-of-production than the real theatrical release.

For this particular movie, Allocinť (biggest French movie site) lists 1981 as production year and has "unknown" for the release year ("date de sortie") http://www.allocine.fr/film/fichefilm_gen_cfilm=29596.html

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somename US

2012-09-06 23:13

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Weasel1984 wrote
In fact Somename mentioned the "copyright date" - the point is, it is not always the same what date when movie went to the theaters or TV

Name one movie that has a different copyright date from it's release year.

Weasel1984 PL

2012-09-07 00:28

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@antp I understand everything, but when I have a well visible year at the film title screen - right below the film title and it is different than the IMDb one, it is hard to ignore this. :D IMO it is obvious that the linked IMDb film is the same one, especially when difference is usually one year only. If necessary I can point this in the comment, like I did in the past.
Like I wrote, majority(?) want to list movies with IMDb dates - OK - I do not want any mass changes of years at the site, but when I choose official year, taken directly from the film, it is really hard to say it is wrong.

somename wrote
Name one movie that has a different copyright date from it's release year.


If it can help in anything, here are some, which copyright/prod. year is different than the IMDb one:
Spoiler - click here to see it


These few films have been taken only from the first page of my contribution list = there are more of them.

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kegare JP

2012-09-07 00:39

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Weasel1984 wrote And one opposite example - IMDb says 1982, but film credits 1983...
/movie_1441424-Bulgot.html


One case happened today:

/movie_991174-Lightbulb.html
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0991174/

Credits:

[Image: sep.1.jpg]

I actually noticed this by mistake, I don't usually check the credits. :p

somename US

2012-09-07 01:46

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Weasel1984 wrote If it can help in anything, here are some, which copyright/prod. year is different than the IMDb one:
Spoiler - click here to see it


These few films have been taken only from the first page of my contribution list = there are more of them.

So, the normally infallible IMDB has a number of typos in regards to the release dates of some obscure Polish language films. :lol:

Still, you probably should add a screen shot of the copyright when the IMDB is wrong. People do think of it as a source of reference.

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chicomarx BE

2012-09-07 02:36

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On imdb it's impossible to change the year by the update process. The database automatically takes the earliest release date, which for obscure things can be years off. I agree with Weasel1984 here. Copyright date is more correct.

Of course for American movies you can blindly follow imdb, it's about the slow-moving Czech drama that only the filmmaker's immediate family has seen.

Weasel1984 PL

2012-09-07 14:31

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somename wrote
So, the normally infallible IMDB has a number of typos in regards to the release dates of some obscure Polish language films. :lol:

Haha...

In fact not only Polish, but in my previous comments, I was writing about the non-English(!) language films, so what did you expect?
Anyway does it make any difference? Mistake is mistake I'm afraid. :p

BTW. the kegare's "Lightbulb" is an US movie, isn't it?

somename wrote
Still, you probably should add a screen shot of the copyright when the IMDB is wrong. People do think of it as a source of reference.

This is what I'm usually doing. Those were my old contribs mostly, from times when nearly none didn't add the title screens.

somename US

2012-09-07 22:30

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^So how do you know the year is listed wrong?

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Weasel1984 PL

2012-09-08 14:25

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?
Because I listed them (here) with different one. In case of my contributions the IMDb mistake is the only reason to this. Anyway just in case - to confirm - I checked them once again the day before yesterday.

somename US

2012-09-08 15:14

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^So the copyright is printed on the box? :??:

Weasel1984 PL

2012-09-08 15:30

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The fact, that few movies is listed without title screen (though exactly most of them disappeared meanwhile due to changes at the external image hosting server) doesn't mean, the date wasn't visible in the credits. And there are also databases which give you this year.

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antp BE

2012-09-11 14:03

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Weasel1984 wrote @antp I understand everything, but when I have a well visible year at the film title screen - right below the film title and it is different than the IMDb one, it is hard to ignore this. :D

Of course, for obvious errors we can ignore IMDB info.
As somename said, you cite movies for which it is "normal" that IMDB is not a good reference. For such movies credit info or info from a Polish site would be more reliable.
But for US movies (or well-known internationally ones) I think using the IMDB year rather than the supposed filming/production year is better.

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