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◊ 2006-11-12 12:38 |
The Stonecutters did (see The Simpsons episode 2F09 "Homer the Great); "Who holds back the electric car? Who makes Steve Guttenberg a star? We do! We do." (from the Stonecutter's anthem) |
◊ 2006-11-12 18:07 |
More specifically, Homer killed the electric car (/vehicle_43041-GM-EV1.html), although I suppose that counts as some kind of weird premonition. |
◊ 2006-11-18 00:27 |
a really weird premonition... |
◊ 2007-12-25 16:49 |
There is a yellow DeLorean in this movie, in the scene where they are visiting the red EV-1 that is in the auto museum. You can clearly see the rear of the car, it is in the adjoining row right next to and behind the EV-1. I know it is a Delorean, because I own one and could spot one a mile away! This would be rated as a one-star appearance. Thanks. |
◊ 2007-12-25 19:10 |
A DeLorean is a little visible on the picture of that yellow car: /vehicle_65742-.html But the DeLorean is not yellow itself ![]() |
◊ 2007-12-26 12:07 |
I am pretty sure it is yellow, but I could be wrong? |
◊ 2008-02-10 02:57 |
I think we killed electric vehicles due to $$$$ on oil! ![]() |
◊ 2008-09-18 01:19 |
it is one of the GOLD Plated Deloreans from an american express promotion ![]() |
◊ 2008-09-18 01:19 |
GM and the oil companies along with our government |
◊ 2009-06-06 03:43 |
the film says everyone killed the electric car; the public didn't demand them, the manufacturers didn't support them, and the government didn't care about them. |
◊ 2010-10-16 22:51 |
Electric cars are just plain useless, simple as that. I don't want a car that has limited range and takes a whole day to charge it up. -- Last edit: 2010-10-19 19:17:32 |
◊ 2011-04-25 13:37 |
They're making a comeback ![]() -- Last edit: 2011-04-25 13:37:42 |
◊ 2011-04-25 13:59 |
I'm confused why your mad? Would you rather have a limited range Tesla Roadster or a Hummer H2 SUT? |
◊ 2011-04-25 14:12 |
Don't forget the H2 also has quite a limited range ![]() |
◊ 2011-04-25 14:13 |
I'd rather have a hybrid (Insight or Prius) than either of them. The Hummer - Massive, slow, scary fuel prices, horribly unpractical, makes you look ridiculous IMHO. ![]() The Tesla - Even more unpractical than the Hummer. And for a sports car, not that fast. ![]() |
◊ 2011-04-25 14:14 |
That too, I wonder what could go the farthest with the same amount of fuel (or electricity)? ![]() |
◊ 2013-04-24 13:08 |
According to an e-mail received from Michael D. the following images were also shown in this documentary: |
◊ 2023-11-16 03:30 |
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◊ 2023-11-16 03:30 |
Upgraded to HD and added missing vehicles |
◊ 2023-11-16 21:45 |
San Francisco Municipal Railway 1058 (1948 PCC Streetcar, built for the Philadelphia Transportation Company, later SEPTA) https://www.streetcar.org/streetcars/1058-1058-chicago-il/ This was made right around the time 1058 was repainted into its Chicago livery http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2838521 -- Last edit: 2023-11-16 21:52:59 |
◊ 2023-11-16 22:03 |
The Infamous PE piled streetcar junkyard at Terminal Island. All of the cars seen were Pacific Electric 600 “Hollywood” Class Link to "upload.wikimedia.org" |
◊ 2023-11-16 23:06 |
They should bring the EV1 back. |
◊ 2023-11-16 23:08 |
There's some that still exist https://www.hemmings.com/stories/how-many-gm-ev1s-remain/ |
◊ 2023-11-17 05:52 |
Can´t say I disagree with that |
◊ 2023-12-12 13:53 |
And that "comeback" is failing. |
◊ 2023-12-12 15:30 |
More than 10 million electric cars sold in 2022, including 1,313,581 Teslas, plus 2/3rd of the world's manufacturers wanting to go all-electric by 2030: are we a joke to you? Not that I like arrogant hybrids sold by a disappointed-looking Basset hound, but you absolutely cannot say electric cars are failing. -- Last edit: 2023-12-12 15:32:41 |
◊ 2023-12-12 17:21 |
My 2018 Mercédès C Class estate car has done 15.5k miles from when I bought it new. It shows every sign of lasting longer than me, and despite my wish to turn to electric propulsion I can’t see how I can save the planet by disposing of a perfectly roadworthy diesel car for something that will use up massive chunks of the earth’s resources before it even turns a wheel. -- Last edit: 2023-12-12 17:28:39 |
◊ 2023-12-13 00:12 |
Many electric cars are plagued by short ranges, long, expensive and weak charges, mechanical defects and sudden fires, especially after disasters. Sure, there are more places willing to set up charging stations in their parking lots, and that's all good. But when these cars start having problems like this, fewer people are going to want to buy them. |
◊ 2023-12-13 01:05 |
All your talking points are years old and the type of propaganda spread by proponents of Big Oil. The current average battery range for new electric cars is now over 300 miles, which for the average commuter is over two weeks of travel. Charge times have come down. For a full charge, most can be done overnight, and the quick charges can get the vehicle to 80% within 20-30 minutes, which should provide plenty of charge for a daily commute. Electric cars actually less likely to catch fire after an accident than ICE. But they do burn hotter when they do. https://www.motortrend.com/features/you-are-wrong-about-ev-fires/ Problem issues, Consumer Reports did find that BEVs and PHEVs do have a higher reliability problems than ICEs, but regular hybrids are the most reliable. Most of the issues are electric motors, vehicle charging and battery issues. And a lot of the issues reported are non-mechanical. They also reported that the industry is in it's infancy, and shows signs of improving quickly as manufacturers and consumers get more experience with electric vehicles. Tesla, which has been at it longer, ranks in the middle of the pack, below Infiniti and above Ram Trucks. They did also point out that since electric vehicles tend to have longer warrantees than ICEs, the ownership costs are lower, as most of the repair work is covered under warranty. Link to "arstechnica.com" -- Last edit: 2023-12-13 01:06:45 |
◊ 2023-12-13 05:30 |
Speaking from experience, when me and my dad tried to test out a Honda e last winter that was being offered at Honda's car sharing service, we could barely get out of the downtown of Tokyo because the battery was low, and half the time it was sitting at a charging station. I'm sure the EVs would be useful in city driving where you won't clock more than 2000 miles a year, but otherwise I can't see these being feasible in the countryside where cars are a must, unless every parking space becomes a charging spot and you can fill these cars up as fast as you can with the average Corolla. |
◊ 2023-12-13 09:02 |
I don’t see how “big oil” comes into my thoughts. To buy an electric car of similar standing to the near top of the range diesel I now have will cost about £70,000 at the currently advertised prices. If you look at the asking prices for other makes there is not enough difference to make viable any bargain involving the residual value in my current car. As far as rapid charging goes, there is no way that the current infrastructure of the 70 year old housing development in which I live can support such a load, and my solar panels, based upon yesterday’s contribution when the sun wasn’t visible all day don’t help. The logic of ditching a low mileage, well maintained diesel purely to go electric, especially with all the unseen disadvantages applying to the very few cheaper electric vehicles makes it, in my case, a no brain decision. Don’t do it. From “Carwow”. The Mercedes EQC has a RRP range of £64,950 to £81,225. Prices start at £64,950 if paying cash. The price of a used Mercedes EQC on carwow starts at £26,000. The EQC sits between its main rivals the BMW iX and Audi e-tron in terms of price and range. -- Last edit: 2023-12-13 09:15:58 |
◊ 2023-12-14 10:49 |
Come to Norway, here you may eat your words raw. |
◊ 2024-01-02 13:49 |
"Big oil" wasn't setting them off on fires like crazy after Hurricane Ian. With most other types of vehicles, you saw the usual damage and pollution associated with flooded out cars. For too many people that's not enough. There are still people who complain that charging them takes too long and is too expensive. Seems reasonable, although EVs have existed in other periods during automobile history. |