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Automobile Parade, Short Movie, 1900 IMDB

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Raul1983 FI

2006-08-25 18:15

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This must be the oldest film on IMCDB so far :D

This short movie which lasts about two minutes was filmed in 1899. It was filmed by Thomas A. Edison film works and published in February, 1900. In this movie they are filming possibly the first annual automobile parade, held on November 4, 1899 in downtown Manhattan. At least ten different makes and models are seen. Electric, steam and gasoline cars.

I admit that the pictures are very low quality but the film is old too ! I did my best to get clear shots of these cars. Let's start the investigations :)


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Jun JP

2006-08-25 18:35

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Great! :king:

Bebert FR

2006-08-25 19:16

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Fine! Where did you get that?

Alexander DE

2006-08-25 19:18

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Probably the film with the highest percentage of unknown cars ... at the beginning! :) I'll dig out some old books, let's see what we'll find!

antp BE

2006-08-25 21:01

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I bet that this movie will also bring lots of new makes, when the cars will be identified ;)

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antp BE

2006-08-25 21:04

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Raul1983 wrote This must be the oldest film on IMCDB so far :D

Yes. After that there is a 1919 movie, and the others are from after 1920.

Raul1983 FI

2006-08-25 22:45

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Bebert wrote Fine! Where did you get that?


The movie can be viewed here:

http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/edhtml/edmvalpha.html

and then choose movie from the list




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stronghold EN

2006-08-26 14:14

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Good find ..well done.! ;)

stronghold EN

2006-08-27 16:29

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..it's been asked on one of the pages ...are All these cars/vehicles domestic (USA) or could there be imports at this time.?

trucker US

2006-08-27 21:21

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I'll look on sites and see what I'll find.

DIEHARD NL

2006-08-27 22:12

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stronghold wrote ..it's been asked on one of the pages ...are All these cars/vehicles domestic (USA) or could there be imports at this time.?


Theoratically they could be imports, for example see the Renault shipped on the Titanic, although that was few years later. I agree though that imports woould be extremely rare iin those days, as it seems likely that official export from Europe and Japan would not have taken place in these years. So the cars would have to be exported by owners then...

archi87 FR

2006-08-27 23:06

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I'm not sure imports cars would be so rare in those days in the States. As I've said somewhere for one car, don't forget that importations of european cars was considered as an important problem then by the american manufacturers. It ended with the law-suits based on the Selden's patent, used to limit these importations. If I'm not wrong, Panhard was the first european company sued, and many europeans companies unified to fight back.

Don't forget also that the scene takes place in New-York, when cars were still a luxury, and Europe fashionable.

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Raul1983 FI

2006-08-27 23:15

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Imports were not that rare in early days of motoring in the States. Untill about 1910 expensive European cars were popular in wealthy circles. About the pictures, I think at least one of those cars is of French origin and one possibly German.

DIEHARD NL

2006-08-27 23:18

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You're arguments are certainly valid. But this is the year 1900, a lot of car makes do not exist yet, others have only just begun production. Now I know I do not know much about this area in car production, but it seems likely to me that when you have just started, you cannot produce so many that you are capable of exporting those to the US. Remember this is before the invention of the assembly line for cars.....

archi87 FR

2006-08-27 23:26

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DIEHARD wrote You're arguments are certainly valid. But this is the year 1900, a lot of car makes do not exist yet, others have only just begun production. Now I know I do not know much about this area in car production, but it seems likely to me that when you have just started, you cannot produce so many that you are capable of exporting those to the US. Remember this is before the invention of the assembly line for cars.....


Not so sure of that. Try to find a list of the european manufacturers sued in this "Selden's patent" business, you'll be surprised. Don't forget also that cars were luxury also in Europe in these years.

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archi87 FR

2006-08-27 23:34

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For example, here is a list of the french manufacturers unified to fight against Selden's Patent (between 1903 and 1911): Charron, Clément, Darracq et Cie, Delaunay-Belleville, De Dietrich et Cie, Hotchkiss et Cie, Mors, Panhard et Levassor, Peugeot, Renault. I'm not sure if all were manufacturing cars in 1900, but that gives an idea of the numerous european manufacturers exporting cars in the States in these years.

Raul1983 FI

2006-08-27 23:42

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You have to remember that the French were quite good if not the best at making cars in those days. Cars like Mors, De Dion Bouton and Panhard & Levassor were the most modern machines at that time. Many of these cars were also license produced in the States.

Here's a proof that French cars were sold there. De Dion Bouton ad from 1901

[Image: dedionbouton1901wg0.1717.jpg]

archi87 FR

2006-08-27 23:43

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Oups… Now, reading more about Selden's Patent, I realize I may be wrong about it used to limit importations of european cars, as Ford also did fight against it. My apologizes to our american friends.

archi87 FR

2006-08-27 23:46

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Raul1983 wrote You have to remember that the French were quite good if not the best at making cars in those days.


France was ahead of the countries manufacturing automobiles till… 1904! (Happy days…)

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Bebert FR

2006-08-28 07:25

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DIEHARD wrote You're arguments are certainly valid. But this is the year 1900, a lot of car makes do not exist yet, others have only just begun production. Now I know I do not know much about this area in car production, but it seems likely to me that when you have just started, you cannot produce so many that you are capable of exporting those to the US. Remember this is before the invention of the assembly line for cars.....


Entièrement d'accord avec toi, DIEHARD, mais je n'ai aucun fait cocncret comme preuve. Seulement ma "logique"... ;)

DIEHARD NL

2006-09-08 22:05

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archi87 wrote

France was ahead of the countries manufacturing automobiles till… 1904! (Happy days…)


Some would say it still is... ;)

Gamer DE

2019-01-26 20:02

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Some immensely helpful scenes in HD: Link to "footage.framepool.com"

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